Stop being a pussy, will you?
But yeah, being b2p with cash shop seems like a good idea.
If not, they will just use their own language.
Thatâs perfectly fine, but why would they use their own language in all chat? I donât mind at all if they use their own language in private.
But why would you say something while being well aware that a majority of the people wonât understand what you are saying?
Itâs like a statement saying âI donât care if you retards understand what I say, I will just stick to my own peopleâ
It defeats the purpose of communication
Itâs so rude, xenophobic and I feel insulted everytime I see someone do this, even if it happens to be done by someone who lives in the same country as me.
ima wot
Because I prefer my multiplayer experience to mostly involve individuals who can communicate better than the digital equivalent of grunting and howling?
Even though the paywall is unnecessary. OP does have a point there. Alot of the uneducated people can play simply because there is no paywall. Fact is that putting up a paywall will definitely reduce the number of illiterates shouting in non-english and using foul languages.
Really op you are the stupid people WE dont want.
Why the developers need 2 care for you?
Money dont make nicer people.go look at ff14.there its i pay so all need 2 play like me or leave.that what you want?
I donât know where people get the idea that a fee will keep immaturity and vulgarity away from a product. As annoying as those things are, thatâs not how that works.
Edit: The game just needs a report function and good moderation. It wouldnât make things perfect, but itâd at least helped instead of letting it run wild. In game or out.
funny how you think someone out there is willing to investigate thousands of report for free. if you believe you can do that why not apply and help them do it.
I donât know why people thinks that was easy as if the game has enough money to support such kind work haha⌠seriously people⌠donât you just wake up ⌠reality check plz.
if you love the game, you will be willing to pay. it is not for some kind of pay wall blah blah ⌠itâs for the game itself to support for a better future⌠not just for TOS but for the next game they are going to create.
I play FF14 and itâs bloody well paradise compared to what Iâve seen in this CBT. Iâd swear by that with a gun to my head.
Why the developers need 2 care for me? Because Iâm the one with the credit card. The people who pay are the only people who matter, when youâre making a game for profit.
Some of you seem to think Tree of Savior exists so you and your friends can play for free, eh? Free to play is never that. Expect to either buy it out the door (b2p) or to have leveling so broken slow that you can only fix it with cash shop items. The latter is far worse, so be careful what you wish for.
Uhh⌠Youâre just putting words in my mouth. Iâm not even going to bother offering a rebuttal.
This game is no where close to FFXIV. No way this game should be worth that much since this game is far less complex than that. This is a 2d game and thatâs 3d game. Much more differences. This is a grind game no way people would spend any cent on pure grinding.
At least the shout thing shouldnât be free.
Youâre just racist that you donât want anyone else besides NA to play your game. FYI just bc itâs on steam doesnât mean it has to cost money and who in there right mind would pay 60+ dollars on a 2d game. That be like making maplestory b2p or p2p game. Itâs just not going to happen. This type of game is not the same caliber in Sony games so donât compare FF to a grind fest 2D game. Lastly, I already explained to you that very few games exist now that go the b2p or p2p route. Majority of games go f2p bc it brings in more cash in the long run. Quit the game if you donât it f2p but do not try to ruin a good game bc you want it b2p so you can keep out the BRs and indos from playing this game.
Iâm not racist. Youâre racist for assuming I donât want paying customers from other countries to buy the game. Iâve said many times I usually like to play with the kinds of people who can afford to pay for games. If you canât afford to pay to play the game at all, itâs because youâre some punk kid who has been behaving so badly that daddy wonât let you use his credit card.
Itâs really, really racist of you to say that Brazilians and Indonesians donât have access to credit cards and steam dollars. How can you call me racist if thatâs what you believe? I donât believe it. Those countries have plenty of mature, paying adults who can support excellent games.
Also, so nobodyâs going to pay money for this game because itâs pure grind, huh? Then enjoy 3 months before the servers close forever.
First youâre assuming that I donât want this to be p2p or b2p bc I am a poor little kid. No I can definitly afford to pay for entertainment but I do not see this game worthy of putting a price tag on it. Especially a high price tag like other games that are far superior in graphics and gameplay than ToS. This game is just a pure grind game just like MapleStory, LaTale, Wonderking, and all those other 2d mmos out there. Do you really think this game is worth 60+ dollars compared to the other mmos? No despite the 80+ classes and the 2.5 D graphics the game is definitely not worthy of purchasing the game before playing it.
You are assuming the game will last only 3 months? Lmao please have you played any other f2p game out there? Majority of them are lasting years and still havent closed. Even MapleStory which is bot infested and the playerbase much lower than it was before is still open and gaining updates each month. You really donât understand anything about gaming. Let me guess? youâre a WoW boy I assume. Thus you never even tried other f2p games out there and are just thinking the only route is subscription or b2p in order to be successful. Guild Wars 2 and Elder Scrolls Online were both B2p games and subscription games. What happened to them? They eventually went f2p bc thatâs where the real money is at and knew that keeping it p2p and b2p wouldnât cut it anymore.
Do research and you will know that this day and age f2p mmos are whatâs hot now. No one is paying for mmos anymore despite the hardcore WoW boys like youself This game is no where near worth a high price tag or any price tag for that matter. Plenty of better FREE mmos out there are coming out very soon which will take the playerbase away from ToS if ToS goes b2p/p2p. Blade and Soul being one of them which is coming out in January and already in CBT phases.
I said youâre racist bc thatâs what majority of your issue is about. You hate the spam from other countries invading âyourâ precious game. FYI those megaphones will most likely be cash items so you will hardly get any spam in the world chat. You are also assuming this game is going straight to p2w and not all f2p games are p2w. LoL and Path of exile are two great examples which are not p2w and are f2p games.
No, no, no. I didnât assume any of those things. You did. Each of the things I said in my response to you was about things that you assumed. I never said $60. Not once. Iâve never suggested a price tag remotely in that area. You just assumed that I did.
You also assumed that I assumed this game would last for â3 months? lmao pleaseâ, because you are bad at reading, and you are not very smart.
You said: âThis is a grind game no way people would spend any cent on pure grinding.â
I said: âAlso, so nobodyâs going to pay money for this game because itâs pure
grind, huh? Then enjoy 3 months before the servers close forever.â
What it all means: An F2P game with no one spending âany centâ on it makes no money and collapses. This is not to be disputed. It is obvious.
You assume that I assume that all the spams are from Brazil and Indonesia. I never said this. I never said they were from any particular country at all. I said they came from an age group. Youâre racist for saying they come only from those countries, just like youâre racist for saying that a paywall will block Brazilians and Indonesians. It wonât, because, as I said before, those countries have good, paying customers, who are mature adults. Similarly, tons of NA players - also in the 14-year old punk range - barf all over shout with with their megaphones, saying tons of tons of awful stuff.
Youâre racist. Not me. Got it? Youâre the one saying all the racist things. Iâm saying no racist things. Understand? Very simple.
Again megaphones will most likely be a cash shop item. Not everyone is going to be spending money on those mega phones. Youâre assuming that they will keep on giving free megaphone a day. Maybe they might give a few a day but I highly doubt they will keep giving them out like hot cakes like they are doing now. If they do then we can bring up that spam issue again. I am sure IMC knows what they are planning on doing when it comes to world chat.
Also when I said no one will pay a cent to play a pure grinding game. I meant that no one is going to pay a cent to actually PLAY the game. They will first want to test out the game and see if itâs worth spending cash on. Then they will pay via cash shop items in the game to further enhance there gameplay whether it be cosmetics or w/e the cash shop offers.
People are more inclined to spend on something if they are able to test it out first. Being force to pay a certain amount of money for a game then finding out you hate the gameplay will just chase out customers. Hence the reason why ESO and GW2 went f2p after a few months being released. You never did say any dollar amount correct but I assume you want it priced high. Seeing as any lower price than 20.00 dollars will do absolutely nothing to stop spammers, hackers, botters, etc. Anyone can afford 5-10 dollars and will continue to spam or bot bc thatâs basically pocket change. In order for a paywall to work it must be placed high enough that people would see it as a big waste of money if they get banned or w/e with there account. No one will pay a high price tag for this type of game when other games out there are far superior that are f2p.
Lastly, you realize this is only closed beta right? Wait until the actual open beta comes out before trying to put a price on the game. Find out what the game actually offers in content, security, and cash items first. As with all games out there that are in closed beta everything will obviously be free. Thus meaning spam will be in abundance and same with hacking all that jazz. You canât even discuss how much p2w this game will be bc we donât even know what IMC has for cash shop items. Stop assuming f2p=p2w bc thatâs not always the case. Some p2w might exist but we donât know how big the p2w will be when the game releases.
I read that this game is not worth, letâs say, 60$. No? For now i have 40 hours on it (i keep the game opened, learning skills, while i do other stuff, but anyway). 40 free hours. Even the last pokemon game didnt last that long (30 hours the story), so itâs totally worth it. Of course the best thing is free to play, but having to spend real money in the shop. For example to buy Reset scrolls, or even to buy fast silver coins so we can get anything we want fast. Also to reduce the time it takes to learn attributes, all of that with real money, would be perfect.
And yea, money is not the problem. They should make an isolated channel for each server. When someone gets reported like 3 times in a single month, for being a jerk, insulting (iâm tired of BR talking in chat), the GM will check the case and ban that guy, then he is FORCED to enter to that Ban channel, and will only be able to play and talk with other banned people. He gets out of jail after X time. This way toxic people is soft banned in an isolated server so they can blame themselves 
comparing this game to pokemon ? are you stupid ?
Yea, i made a topic about this. If TOS isnât B2P then the game will be plagued with the worst of the internet. It will be a pity to see such a great game be destroyed by lag, bots, cheaters and toxic F2P players.
This game MUST be B2P to get rid of 90% of these problems.
Youâre out of your mind WoW is subscription based and full of elitist and toxic community. Same exact thing with FFXIV. They dont even let you join there raids if youâre a new player. If you make any kind of mistake in there raids you get yelled at and called horrible names by these pricks. It doesnât matter if the game is f2p, b2p, or subscription based. Youâre still going to get a big toxic community since thatâs how mmos are like. People create there little âelite groupâ then gather more people to join them and treat the poor or lowbies like crap. MMOs are like highschool basically. This is something you need to deal with and no price tag will fix that. What can fix it is if the company actually follows through with rules they set. I said this multiple times in this thread this game is not worth any price tag to be able to play it. Now it may be worth buying items through cash shop if you enjoy the game but in no way shape or form this game is worth a penny just to start it. Itâs a 2d grind game just like MapleStory, LaTale, and Wonderking. Those are meant to be f2p. If GW2, ESO, blade and soul, are all f2p now and doing just fine I donât see why ToS canât stay f2p. Stop trying to ruin a good game with your stupid conservative mentality.