Right!
And the 20% of times go to three other classes…
Ah ok, so thats why archers wizards and swords turn into flameknights. Someone should stop them.
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Right!
And the 20% of times go to three other classes…
Ah ok, so thats why archers wizards and swords turn into flameknights. Someone should stop them.
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90% now
TBL is a faceroll because of the random queue. Clerics win because statistically in a scramble-type situation the support classes will dominate.
The moment that pre-made parties can enter TBL, expect that to change REALLY fast.
Most groups will want a balance of support, CC, and pure damage.
Premade parties in PVP go against the idea of a casual game.
And Mr Kim stated TOS is a casual game!
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Lie, they dont win because they are supports, they win because can be all in one classes, stop cc, dispel, heal, huge dps, invulnerable to most attacks and the only way to counter a cleric is a cleric. And if you could enter with a premade party and you face in the other side 5 clerics you can say good bye,
Premade partys = 4 Clerics + 1 CC wizz…
Such power. I’ve been in that exact situation (4 cleric + 1 cryokino in enemy vs me a swordie + 4 clerics).
Either I’m so noob or my build just isn’t fit (Hop3 Goon2) for the situation. One thing’s for sure:
CC (MF/raise) then Gohei = RIP
Such a shame that I’m a swordie yet I have to stand behind clerics and snipe from afar instead because going in is just straight-up suicide. Miko Agni PDs can go to hell (jk!). 
Clerics rule Tree of Savior, while the Hueknights rule Tree of Forums!!
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Horseshit.
There is a reason why GvG is CC heavy. When there is communication and tactic involved, heavy cleric groups will get trounced, as they do currently.
With haste, kino3s and cryos, you literally never have to initiate until you get the advantage.
I encourage you to attempt GvG with 15 clerics. See how it goes.
Where talking about tbl here also known as cleric battle league
Yep, since it is random queue, support wins.
Once people hand pick their groups, I assure you they won’t be 5 cleric groups.
They will be 2 cleric 2 wizzy 1 catagoonlancer or some derivative of that.
If Cleric was removed as a class from the game which class would everyone complain about between Wizard and Swordy? I am going to say Wizard because “OH MY GOODNESS THEY HAVE RANGED AND AS A SWORDMAN I GOTTA BE ALL CLOSE IT’S NOT FAIR!”
Support? you mean support+dps+anti-cc+invincibility
anti-cc and invincibility falls under ‘support’.
Only rank that can ‘DPS’ is PD2 with agny. Inquis is burst damage, and malleus is only strong if you catch someone alone.
What is funny, is that correctly built clerics are built to counter each other, which is fine. At that point is it about who plays the class better.
malleus dmg eat more than 60% of my HP (80k), with 5000 mdef
very balanced
As I said, if you get caught alone it is very strong. Even in 2v2 scenarios if you stay close to your teammate and have pets out it will reduce its effectiveness.
Any flavor of warlock can nullify it completely and missle hole stops it as well. There are ways around it.
It is normal to cause + 40k damage in a tank… Let me know more
So basically clerics AND wizards are OP, is what you’re saying.
Makes sense.
Correctly built wizards and clerics are the meta of this game’s pvp at the moment.
This does not mean that other classes don’t have roles that can be filled. For example if there was a 5v5 pre-made team option, I would not have a mixture of just cleric and wizzy. I would have another class or classes, like a catagoonlancer or a swordie with iron hook, or a musketeer to execute a player who got debuffed.
Sure dude, this games pvp is super balance, cleric are supports dont make good dps, that’s why they can clear alone almost all the content in the game and are top pvp