Where talking about tbl here also known as cleric battle league
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Yep, since it is random queue, support wins.
Once people hand pick their groups, I assure you they won’t be 5 cleric groups.
They will be 2 cleric 2 wizzy 1 catagoonlancer or some derivative of that.
If Cleric was removed as a class from the game which class would everyone complain about between Wizard and Swordy? I am going to say Wizard because “OH MY GOODNESS THEY HAVE RANGED AND AS A SWORDMAN I GOTTA BE ALL CLOSE IT’S NOT FAIR!”
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Support? you mean support+dps+anti-cc+invincibility
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anti-cc and invincibility falls under ‘support’.
Only rank that can ‘DPS’ is PD2 with agny. Inquis is burst damage, and malleus is only strong if you catch someone alone.
What is funny, is that correctly built clerics are built to counter each other, which is fine. At that point is it about who plays the class better.
malleus dmg eat more than 60% of my HP (80k), with 5000 mdef
very balanced
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As I said, if you get caught alone it is very strong. Even in 2v2 scenarios if you stay close to your teammate and have pets out it will reduce its effectiveness.
Any flavor of warlock can nullify it completely and missle hole stops it as well. There are ways around it.
It is normal to cause + 40k damage in a tank… Let me know more
So basically clerics AND wizards are OP, is what you’re saying.
Makes sense.
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Correctly built wizards and clerics are the meta of this game’s pvp at the moment.
This does not mean that other classes don’t have roles that can be filled. For example if there was a 5v5 pre-made team option, I would not have a mixture of just cleric and wizzy. I would have another class or classes, like a catagoonlancer or a swordie with iron hook, or a musketeer to execute a player who got debuffed.
Sure dude, this games pvp is super balance, cleric are supports dont make good dps, that’s why they can clear alone almost all the content in the game and are top pvp
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dota2 crystal maiden, lion, orge magi… wanna be carrry
while anti mage, juggernaut, sniper cry
its not the game fault. its the player.
in tos, player can go full support, but swordman/archer so sucky , cleric realize they can do better dps than supposed dps swordman/archer.
wiz? wiz always has it easier than swordman/archer…
huehuehue
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that is the big point. exactly
In PVP what sucks going versus Cleric and Wis is that in this game, is that you CANT block Magic, as well as is unavoidable, so this makes others classes very sad, since there is not extra power do compensate that, and Wis still can go high CON.
The Fact that you Cant Block Magic make no sense whatsoever.
The fact Murmillo, the only character of Swordsman that can block magic without BS, already made a huge difference, but you have just one class to compete. The archers can attack from a safe distance, I dont know much what is the bad point, since I dont have archer. Maybe the low HP.
Waaaaaa~ I’m a Swordsman why do I get countered by the ranged magical classes and can’t beat the sustainable support classes? Waaaa~ Mommy can I have some allowance money to buy a reset out of Barbarian because the Clerics beat me in PVP all the time! Waaaaaa~
I don’t agree with the amount of immunity in this game which is extremely lazy design, but honestly do think the counter should be in Archer CC somewhere via classic balance triangle. They never intended for this game to be based around PVP and just should have simply not given into the little babies crying on the forum. Now go use your reset out of the old gimp meta classes rerolling against your counters. This is the hell people wanted with all the amount of crying which will never end meanwhile IMC capitalizes off it making more profits.
Enjoy the IMC spoon feed.
Go play Darkages it’s literally the same experience. You bot yourself up HP/MP and play the meta class then end up getting kelb’d anyways because you’re a scrub. You can’t ever compete against the person whose RMT’d all the best gear and been playing longer. And it all revolves around immunities like ToS too!
They even run the same crappy no update or fixes model too with only cash shop costumes for the weebs.
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@Remiri is an inquis main if I’m not mistaken, so it’s no surprise he’s doing some fantastic mental gymastics to defend clerics. They’re OP in PvP and PvE.
Edit: replied to wrong person saying swordies are weaker than archers.
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chill bro~
play dressing is the correct approach/mindset in tos.
+1 like for your patronage
hue~
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You appear to be missing the parts where I say that Clerics are strong, but ok. Keep building up that strawman.
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Git Gud Scrubs or RMT/Hook64 like Soviet, whose seeking attention with the video clearing 40F floor, huehuehue~
the power of money is good here 
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