Tradeable/Account tradeable/Untradeable

[radixon1010]

nice, but if someone bought it from market, someone paid for it in real money.

wow, thank you captain obvious.

Ashmunrah:
U dont quite read my post

you don’t quite read your own post. you used token as the example of items people couldn’t get if they didn’t spend real money.

Ashmunrah:
Anyone MUST have the oportunity to buy an iten in-game.

this is simply not true. “Piriot.”

IMC needs to be able to generate revenue to pay for the costs of running the servers. If they don’t sell cash-shop items, the game loses money. and if the game loses money, it shuts down.

it would more “unfair” to allow in-game selling of premium items, because then the game would devolve into a pay2win economy. the “whales” (players who have a lot of real money they can and will spend on the game) will simply buy tons and tons of whatever items are popular and flood the market with them. then all the silver ends up in their pockets, and everyone complains you have to buy TP to make money in this game.

Getting a bit off subject this thread is to mainly talk about account items being account tradeable. not everything from the cash store to be player tradeable

[Ashmunrah]

you were captain bvious man, jesus…[quote=“tzxazrael, post:40, topic:235170”]
it would more “unfair” to allow in-game selling of premium items, because then the game would devolve into a pay2win economy. the “whales” (players who have a lot of real money they can and will spend on the game) will simply buy tons and tons of whatever items are popular and flood the market with them. then all the silver ends up in their pockets, and everyone complains you have to buy TP to make money in this game.
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thats not entirely true. If the itens were not “p2w itens” then they can sell it.
If you bought a outfit from cash shop then you sell it in silver, its not bad for economy. And will rise the tp sells.

[padawanchichi]

This thread need more likes !

[ak111]

Yes, we do need an “Account tradeable” category.

[Crossfall]

They don’t really need a different category for “account tradeable”. What they can (must) do is allow “untradeable” items to be stored in Team storage.

[tzxazrael]

What they can (must) do is allow “untradeable” items to be stored in Team storage.

well yea, when we say “account tradable” that’s what we mean.

most of us only care about being able to trade premium (aka cash shop) items.

[d4wnbreaker]

A TP<>Gold exchanger should be interesting, like in GW2, while we are talking about that game, the ideal for us here would be the wardrobe solution that they have there. Lenses, hair colors, hair styles, clothing and all.

[d4wnbreaker]

It will increase TP sells and it will increase people botting and people buying silver from bots (since they sell the resource at a smaller price and “work rate” than IMC), I saw this trend in Maplestory, it’s terrible for in-game economy because it floods the market with silver and it inflates the prices big, big time.

The best way to do it would be having an official TP<>Silver trade instead, like in GW2.

But this isn’t much of the focus of this thread.

[d4wnbreaker]

Also, I want to make clear that people are not saying to change the class-bound clothing feature. Many people, if not all of them, think it’s a good thing.

A link to the same discussion in Reddit, that thread there has around 100 upvotes now.

Help us show IMC why changing the premium items to account bound is a good thing...

[brunoscaldaferri]

Now you have 100 upvotes there!
I’m still waiting for some comments from GMs about this subject! @Staff_Julie @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_No @STAFF_John @STAFF_J

[Ashmunrah]

t will increase TP sells and it will increase people botting and people buying silver from bots (since they sell the resource at a smaller price and “work rate” than IMC), I saw this trend in Maplestory, it’s terrible for in-game economy because it floods the market with silver and it inflates the prices big, big time.

this have absolutelly nothing in common with tp sells. one dont change another. ppl want silver mostly to buy itens, since this is the major thinkon the game. cosmetics and tp stufs (besides token) are not important. ALL GAMES WITH CASH DO LIKE THAT . PXG is a strong exemple, they dont have bots and cash shop is very HOT, ppl buy and sell it free.

[funkydough6971]

Too bad the only one that cared about what we have to say is gone!

[Youuuuuuuuu]

not fans made up. Different company but same creator Hakkyu Kim

Hakkyu Kim created Ragnarok Online, Granado Espada, and tree of savior.

he is also the former ceo of GRAVITY Co., Ltd (the company that own ragnorok).

he is now the ceo of IMC Games Co.,Ltd…

http://ragnarok.wikia.com/wiki/Kim_Hakkyu this guy
http://toswiki.treeofsaviorgame.com/people/kim-hakkyu

[darxi999]

The potions like stat / skill reset will most likely be tradable within account but hairs and costume probably not, that would require them to do more work into adding more hairs / costumes since everyone only needs to buy them once…which I think its a dumb idea not to make more.

[tzxazrael]

not fans made up.

yes fans made up.

BECAUSE IMC SAID IT WAS NOT SO.

“but we’re the fans, we don’t care what you tell us, so we’re going to believe whatever we want anyway.”

if Hakkyu Kim was CEO of both companies… and HIS OWN COMPANY makes posts that say they are not related… who the hell do you think -you- are to argue with -him- ?

seriously, the sense of entitlement of some people just astounds me.

[Skogarna]

Bumping the thread.

//20char

[tzxazrael]

Bumping the thread.

why? this is in General, not in Suggestions. bumping it here isn’t going to do any good.

[alicebmau]

Bumping the thread.

//20char

[dalamar]

Hey genius, they’d be making more money if the whales had someone (f2p players) to buy their sh!t. Every other MMO knows and does this, but I guess IMC never got the memo.

[Raiden121212]

I’ve just had the problem of wanting to trade a skill reset potion to my other character.
I’m sad
IMC please…