who said its an mmo lmao
if you have time to quote you should have time to read
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I know what you said
I was specifically quoting
Because we are talking about mmos andyou suddenly shove a different genre
Well guess what Dark souls is a pretty good game
See, it’s average player even out in 2 days
Means I wasn’t really wrong for posting jptos instead itos lol
Just a little bit visionary
It’s actually itos win the race now
Race to the bottom
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For Fedi it’s not even the case, as the 3rd guild doing GTW doesn’t have 15 people in it. Not even sure there are still 15 people in the second guild either. ToS_support guild can’t even participate…
Yesterday I logged into the game, tried to do some automatch stuff, didn’t see anyone in any queue, did one CM solo, logged out.
You know what? When I started playing ToS, having only one character full F2P the game sounded like it never had an end, since I was spending an insane amount of time clearing every map for quests, collection items, Vibora exp cards (exploration + mob kills) and there were so many maps to clear, took me a whole year to reach endgame and that was fun. Plus the content was challenging from day one. I started Losk Ark and got exactly the same feeling. But when I see the “instant level 50” button next to my character, I can’t help thinking that Lost Ark will eventually become like ToS where once the honeymoon is over and you reach endgame, the same issues will fatally appear and make the game less appealing.
Depends on the definition. If you consider “win” as “being one of the top players” then probably. As long as you can “buy” resources to make your character stronger it is p2w. If you consider “win” as “being able to complete the game”, then no. Imagine games where endgame raids would be locked behind cash shop resources, that would be true p2w. Old shareware games would do that – get the game for free, explore the first few levels and then you’re forced to pay if you wanted to go further and complete the game.
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I do get your point, p2w has been a long debate since forever, and im not gonna expand on it. It’s no longer necessary.
But you see, that’s not a free-to-play model. Old shareware games would do that, the free version is like a demo, and then you have to pay to play the rest of the game. Its either a buy-to-play or subscription model.
And anyway it’s really out of topic, so let’s not just talk about it. Thank you for replying.
Those 2 patches were judged by many wow players that they were the worst of the worst expansion ever and those features that you mentioned were key reasons.
I think most of us realized why TOS has failed (p2w , endless grinding , etc.) , but my major disappointment is toxic and unfriendly communities due to various in-game elements. combing with less than 600 peak player , I am not surprised if this game will enter maintenance mode or shut down at any time if IMC does not seriously fix this game.
i agree with this one. imagine being a new player getting shouted and abused by veterans because you don’t know mechanics or you’re too undergeared
the only remaining players left are the toxic ones
The more competitive and demanding a game is, the more likely it is to become toxic. IMC made it like this, it’s just the natural course.
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But but… dear Kim said that TOS is a cute and casual game, it isn’t his fault if people p2w to be on top 
Meanwhile…
#RoadTo400
Damn that’s players gain
The game is reviving
Awesome
simple devs different
/20characters
Damn. I came here to complain but its pretty wholesome seeing some of bigger folks point ■■■■ out. Just gonna chill and watch. I do care about TOS, waited 4yrs. eager for its release despite never experiencing Ragnarok in it’s glory days. The first year or so felt fine in my opinion but at a certain point in time it fell off track.
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I bet it will reach 300 by end of month, and probably anniversary and big update will bring some players back for couple weeks or so for earring and new classes
I don’t think an earring and trying out new classes enough to keep players retention for more than a month
Or is it? Not me.
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honestly I feel unlikely considering that you probably need to grind to 470 to use earing and the cool stuff. Which mean paying for 470 boost or endless dung 400 spam. Neither sounds like something people who tired of the game want to see.
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I believe the new update can have more of a negative than a positive impact. The game is going into more tedious grindfests with the Earring and Res Sacrae lv 20. Some people will be back, maybe try/clear the new raid once, see that the grind on the game is even more tedious than before, and leave.
If the update comes with TP-gated vouchers for the new contents, it’s even worse.
Meanwhile, IMC keeps going in circles with their Class Rebalance and New Classes, not knowing that doesn’t make anything meaningful to the game right now.
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And one less player anyway. Not that I decided to quit, but I simply can’t play anymore (at least on my server). And as usual submitting a support ticket is just a big waste of time. Wake me up again when they decide to fix EU server like they did for NA.
Interesting thread, some good reads
Rest in Popos toso, it had a good run
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The real ToS was the friends we made along the way.
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Everybody has their own campfire GIF moment
RIP
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