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Torn between C3 Cleric or C2 Priest for supportive/dps PD

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

Hi guys, I’m pretty torn over what builds I should go to when OBT launches…

I was thinking of going a support healer with a decent amounts of supportive spells and also offensive (so that I won’t be useless during most fights and hopefully makes it an easier levelling process).
Ranks 5: Pardoner (Hopefully to sell dispeller scrolls & Lv 5 Daino)
Rank 6: Oracle (mainly cuz I want the outfit…)
Rank 7: Plague Doc.
My focus will be mainly INT and a dash of CON.

I’m having issues deciding whether to go:
Cleric > Kirvis > Cleric > Cleric > Pardoner > Oracle > PD
Build: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/1s7l0gu5tp/

  • Will having 15 heal tiles (16 if factor in divine might) be useful for healing party members/doing burst damage?
  • Is having lv 15 safety zone a huge boon and makes a big difference from level 5?
  • This build grants me the following debuffs to work together with incinerate: Deprotected zone, Aukuras and Zalciai. Will that be sufficient?
  • I do realize that before hitting PD, I have a serious lack of damage (heal and cure cannot hit airborne, Zaibas lv 5 no splash attribute, Pardoner & Oracle grants no damage skills)
    Cleric > Priest > Priest > Kirvis > Pardoner > Oracle > PD
    Build: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/wb68xqwgwt/
  • Auto attacking with priest buffs (Sacrament, Blessing) although slow, is decent auto attack damage output.
  • Will Blessing and Sacrament be relevant in higher levels?
  • Priest C2 grants mass heal and Revive (extremely useful for the 5s invincibility)

TLDR: I can’t decide between
Lv 15 Heal and Lv 15 Safety Zone (Cleric C3)
OR
Blessing, Sacrament, Mass Heal & Revive (Priest C2)

Do hope to hear opinions from you guys ;__;

#2

At first i warn you that
not much money from selling scrolls.

the only way to fix lack of damage is play Sadhu on rank4-5
are you have any vid show DE-Incineration combo?

For your question cleric3 look better imo.

#3

Both are crap, to few active defense and next to no damage.

If you want a incinerate focused build go grab cleric2, x2, Pardoner2, Plague Doctor.
With x2 being dievdirby2, krivis2 or even bokor2(better in pvp).

Ignore the condition/debuff scaling, it only adds 1 second each. It’s a nice bonus when you can apply them, but it’s not worth it to pick circles solely for debuffs.

Cleric3 is just overkill but cleric1 is lacking in healing. Just learn to use your safety zone/mackangdal/carve world tree to prevent dmg.

And once again @frould 's advice is best ignored. It’s more likely he/she/it is giving bad advice on purpose at this point.

  • We don’t know the current simony/spell shop lists yet. So kind of hard to predict if it’s good for money atm.

  • Sadhu r4 or cleric3 prevents access to zaibas or carve owl to drastically improve your dps. Which are from far better circle options anyway.

  • You don’t have enough defensive skills to use OoB anyway so sadhu2 would be required.

  • And picking second sadhu circle at r5 means losing out on a +10s incinerate from pardoner’s higher lvl discern evil. Aka, still not worth it.

  • DE + Incinerate has been confirmed already, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XszuG-rZY9U

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#4

I don’t think Cleric3 is really worth getting most of the time. 5 extra heal tiles and a few more safety zone hits isn’t worth a whole rank’s investment imo. I would only go that if I was trying some kind of super scaling full INT dps build using Cure 15 (but even then I’d rather take another rank of Krivis/Sadhu/Bokor)

Cleric2 is the sweet spot though. You get double the heal tiles, the Safety Zone and Cure c2 attributes, and Fade if you want it. Unless you’re a melee-based Monk/Paladin build I think every Cleric should get Cleric2.

#5

What? i give my feedback from my actual pardoner game in KOBT. I build Cleric>Krivis>Priest>Paladin>Padoner>Oracle (not reach Oracle yet cuz scroll seller just stupid no reason to play further) for most simony scroll access. That most poppular Daino scroll that *** want only give me 500s each and it not likely ppl want to buy them.

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#6

and you underestimate sadhu now?

#7

OOB no longer gets bonus damage from skills like monstrance, cure, zalciai and restoration. c1 Saddhu is basically not viable especially at 200+ if you want dps. Possession works much much better so c2 is a must.

Druid’s Carnivory is only 30 hits at c1 also so I’m interested to know if a c1 druid path would even be worth it. It’s basically Cleric c2’s version of Cure with higher skill damage and larger aoe.

These are just my thoughts on INT-based dps classes in Cleric tree, by no means should they be taken at face value. Good luck.

#8

Ah yes because that’s such a great way to predict such a complex situation.

  • Itos and Ktos are the same. There will be differences between the playerbases.
  • You need to give the playerbase time to understand these scrolls are even a thing.
  • What is market saturation? less pardoner scroll options means a larger supply of the ones you can make. More competition = less profit.
  • Did you even try dispeller scrolls?
  • And i wouldn’t rule out you screwing it up somehow either.

It is still viable since you can attack with oob while you cast spells. But it’s not as good as it’s alternatives are now.

Yes, but depends on the build:

  • Druid + Diev for the chortasmata + grass type +20% dmg bonus.
  • Telepath for pvp.
  • It’s a strong dmg spell with a mere 1 circle investment. Only rivaled by pardoner for the incinerate combo with Plague Doctor.
  • 30 hits x 1177 base dmg magic damage is pretty decent. (No dmg penalty vs any element)

Articulate thy frustrations or disagreements, such vague quips make no one any wiser.

#9

Sadhu damage is pretty meh now. The sadhu thread literally died after the nerfs.