Tree of Savior Forum

To plague doctor or to not plague doctor

Class and Rank Cleric
#1

So this is the conundrum that im facing. should i go with plague doctor or no?
im torn between these two builds. ( im leaning towards not going plague doctor )
to go this:

cleric -> priest c3 -> chaplain-> cleric c2 -> pd

or this:

cleric ->priest c3 -> chaplain -> cleric c2 -> krivis

rationale:
first off, i want to go full support for both PVP and PVE. i dont care for plague doctor to be honest. i think its going to get a nerf in future updates as well. Also, i hear that zabias can do more damage than incenerate. especially since my only 2 debuffs are monsterance and deprotection zone.

im also looking forward to rank 8. if i forego plague doctor, it pretty much sets me up for whatever comes for the rank 8 update, since im not interested in utilizing debuffs and strategizing with them. id rather get cure and fix my debuffs

im going SPR/CON/INT stat build

thoughts?

#2

plague doctor is op, beast pve pvp. best class in ToS right now.

do you need any more reason?
if i was to give you any reason not to go plague id say because it’s not fun being the strongest thanks to the unbalanced nature of ToS.

i personally won’t touch plague i think.

edit: also everything might change later so, plague doctor might not be so overwhelming down the road.

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#3

what exactly makes you say hes so ‘OP’, or ‘strongest’?
i dont see anything in his skills that stand out.

#4

Healing Factor. Also ability to make himself AND his party immune to most CC effects.

#5

exactly.

20goddamnchar

#6

IMO plague doctor isn’t that OP by itself, but the combination with Priest C3 is.
Stone skin makes your entire party “immune” to physical damage and there isn’t much complain (because is 50% uptime), but with PD, the party is immune to physical damage and level 2 status ailments (90% uptime). That’s what OP IMO.

#7

with Chaplain it is 100% uptime since Chapel doesnt put Stone Skin on CD and you can refresh Capela’s buffs by re-entering its effect range.

#8

The problem is not PD CC imunity, just kill the PD / Their team with damage skills, you still can hurt them.

The problem is STONE SKIN , what’s you gonna do ? wanna kill ? can’t even do damage to this. With chaplain you can have permanent STONE SKIN.
*Only for Physical damage.

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#9

Imo PD is broken and I expect it to be nerfed/tweaked somewhat soon. PD skills make other classes skills useless or worthless plus the 90% uptime you guys speak about. From a design and balance perspective I’m looking at it, that has to change.

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#10

I agree in thinking they’ll nerf Plague Doctor in the future probably by making some of the skills not 100% but more like 75-85% immunity. I’m also assuming they’ll be moving some of their skills into circle 2 when rank 8 comes out as well.

There’s a possibility they’ll either nerf stone skin too or remove in from capella for balance. But that’s all speculation.

IMO build the build you’d like and since everyone is picking plague doctor it might be possible you just end up on the same team as one and won’t have to worry about having had it at all.

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#11

Lol where did you hear this from? This is completely false, especially if you’re going to have only C1 Zaibas. Incinerate is a true AoE. Zaibas is not.

#12

PD is a must have, especialy in PvP…healing factor, incinerate and immunity to CC’s. There are no better option. Period.
I agree they will probably nerf it, but i think they will always be necessary as long as they mess around with CC’s. I would be more worried about a possible nerf to Stone Skin.

#13

Actualy nerfing/balancing wouldnt be so hard for those two skills especially.
Just make them not work in conjunktion like Guardian and Gung HO for Swordsman. I mean isnt Bloodletting pretty much a physical skill?
You open your partys vains to let bad stuff out, how does the PD cut the veins when the party consists of stonified people? I’m Just asking, just asking!cough
Just make it so the group has to decide what immunity they want CC or Physical dmg but dont let em stack it. Not that hard to figure that out imo.

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#14

Watch this video: kinda looks like zaibas does more damange. i think

#15

hmm good point. they may just nerf chaplains ability to keep the stone skin up.

my main is going to be a priest, ill be so damn pissed if i level this guys all the way to max and nerf it make the build different then i expected. ive changed my build sooooo mant times lol

#16

ah i see, those 2 do sound nice yeah. i am still floating between 3 builds myself
cleric -> priest c3 -> chaplain-> cleric c3
cleric -> priest c3 -> chaplain-> cleric c2 -> plague doctor
cleric -> priest c3 -> chaplain-> Pardoner c2 (just for money making)

i wonder which one will pay of more in the end as a full dex auto attack focused build.

cleric c3 will be appreciated for group play because of the strong heal and safety wall. one question though. does divine might actually increases all your skills by 10 levels. the skill description is a little vague, saying its applying 10 times rather than 10 levels. or does it mean the circle will stick to the ground until 10 people have walked over it, applying just 1 level to 10 people.

if its just 1 skill level then im more likely go to plague doctor for its healing factor and bloodletting, but i dont think incinerate will be worth picking up as a auto attacker will it?

edit: one more question, how does stone skin work if you have no shield equiped? i read in a video you need to have ‘the block stat’ if you use no shield… did this person mean you need atleast +1 block from a gem or armor for stoneskin to take effect, or what?

#17

Chaplain Capella can be destroyed at PvP so it is not a problem, Stone Skin that offers to much block by now but maybe later ranks the flat block from Stone Skin won’t be that OP.

#18

it is a party buff that increases skill levels by 1 for 10 skill usages for every buffed player.

#19

ah ok thanks, plague doctor it is then i think :stuck_out_tongue:

#20

Number of hits dude. C1 Zaibas is single target and does maximum 9 hits. Incineration on the other hand is an AoE DoT that can easily achieve more than 9 hits. Not to mention that monster getting hit by Zaibas in your video is weak to lightning -.-