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Thoughts about shadowmancer build?

Okay, I found this one to be a good build. Good sustainable dmg with sorc and pyro. Shrink body helps out to increase dps. Shadow has good burst and single target, with no sp problems. Thauma buffs are really good to round up your matk based on your SPR, since you have INT only from equips. Firepillar is enough CC, and enchant fire is good because of your many multiple hits attacks. Since thauma is getting nerfed soon (no more matck from dagger :’( ), I will try pyro3-thauma1 variation to see if it still can hold enough dmg to shadow.

I’ve tryed the same build…and didn’t liked too… it’s strange but it looks like when you get elementalist you became really weak (only in defense cuz magic attack, oh man…never saw that high damage :smile: )

So i’ll try w1-cryo1-linker2-sorc3-shadow2 tomorrow, cryo i’ts just because i can freeze all those mobs who are hunting me when i’m with low HP and pyro really need a rework fast…poor pyro imo… linker 2 cuz i’ll be able to link more mobs and sorcerer cuz he’ll be my other sorce of DPS and since i’ll be full SPR (maybe with a little CON), so more damage yey… let’s see if will be a good build :thinking:
I’ll update here when i test it.

Stage 1 (60 Points) gives you Lunarhider.

Stage 2 (75 Points) gives you Sunhider.

Stage 3 I haven’t unlocked yet, but my guess is 80 points? Maybe 90? Gives you the Winter Night accessory.

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i have pyro 2 thauma1 sorc2 necro1 shadow 2 (full SPR) and love this spec ;3 can easly solo 300 dung and saalus and hg and everything else v.v

I’m using Wiz1->Pyro1->Linker1->Thaum1->Chrono3->SM2 as farmer. It’s decent. Works somewhat as a off-dps/support.

The build lacks offensive skills aside from SM so you need really high MATK to compensate AoE downtime.

For small scale farming/grinding it works really well but SP consumption is a problem (avoid Shadow Thorn whenever possible) and long/high-end grind like stage4+ Challenge Modes pushes the character so much that I need to use SP related cards to keep going and even keistas/premium potions.

I don’t really recommend it but it works fine with a good weapon.

A good trick for HG/Challenge Mode is to cast Shrink Body, Link then Chapparition+Shadow Conjuration or Shadow Condensation (Shadow Thorn is actually weak on links because it’s single target - altho with attribute + Shrink Body + Chap allows it to hit cap 777k to all linked targets depending on the target’s defense).

As a note, you’d need Joint Penalty gem to compensate picking Linker C1.

On the pros side, you’re not too bound to link cooldowns/aggro limit and can kill extra swelled monsters easily and as well Pass your own skills.

It’s pretty much a good alt to have but not as your main farmer.

anyone interested testing wiz2link2thaum3FF1shadow1?
ff1 for self healing

My update: I’ve founded my shadowmancer build and it’s w1-cryo1-linker2-sorcerer3-shadow2, high damage, high survivability, high DPS, and low mana consumption… Ice Pike and ice bolt can save you many times even without frost pillar; with join penalty lv10+hangman knot+passives you’ll kill all linked mobs with 1-2 shadow thorn, saving a lot of Mana; when all your shadowmancer skills are in CD, you can use salmion, summoning and bats to give the DPS you’ll need until you be able to use link and shadowmancer’s skills again. Currently stats 50 con and remaining points in SPR (about 300 points) and +5 regard horn staff stage 2 with 2 blue gem lv7.

Why sorc3? Damage is like 5% more than sorc2.

What do you guys think about adding warlock in R7 as a filler?
Sorcerer’s cat buff increases dark damage as well.
I was thinking Pyro2-Thauma1-Sorc2-Warlock1-SM2.

I really wish I can put Thauma3 in there though… going full SPR obviously because I really hate being mana-hungry…
Maybe this one is better: Pyro2-Thauma3-Sorc1-SM2.

Sorc buff gives you flat 50 add dark damage. It is zero. So you skill damage becomes from 10000 to 10050.

Thauma3 and sorc1 are great choices. Summon will add to your sustained damage, and thauma3 is a great damage buffer. Thauma3-Sorc1 - X - X builds, I don’t dislike it.

So, swell right arm does not give any matk now in kTest with dagger?

Wait, is Sorc cat buff that bad at boosting dark atk?!
Still, does Warlock at C1 add decent damage to an SM build?

Cat gives like arde dagger but 50 dark instead of 143 fire atk. It is almost nothing, so just forget it. Warlock is 10% boost.

Gotcha, thanks. Lol that is really horrible.

I’m leaning more toward Sorce2-Warlock1-SM2 now. Warlock’s attribute adds 10% to dark, plus more skills to fill in cooldown time.
As awesome as Thauma3 is, losing 2 ranks for Swell Head and higher level of Swell Left Arm is just not worth it imo…

BTW, I have no experience in warlock yet. Is Mastema a DoT skill like Frost Cloud?

Sorc1 is really good as 1 circle if you going full SPR, the summon deal a lot of damage! a decent geared would be 40k-60k per hit, while marnox is like 40k+ x 2 per hit consistenly, that was enough to compensate the lost of 10% from warlock. Not to mention they provide infinity aggro like swash buckling and help you mitigated lot of damage that was suppose to deal on you.

Warlock1 at the mean time, for me the best thing is invocation and +10% dark damage attribute. As you see, the thauma3warlock1shadow2 is a damage exponential build, a high INT + T10 Staff + high level of Attribute + Chapparition Cards will multiply up the damage to extremely high and potentially hitting 777k damage.
Shadow Conjuration/ORbs if damage is high enough that kill off monster, then it work best with Invocation which dealing 500%x3 per spirit leaving on the ground.
Not to mention this build need INT/SPR to stack together for best thauma buff return and highest base matk scaling with chapparition cards. (be noted chap cards do not scale on thauma buff, so you need high INT/high matk weapon to work best with chap cards, while you need INT/SPR gears to scale thauma buff and compensate your lack of SPR when going full INT), it is pretty much a very demanding high end build.

So as the say, the sorc1 is for beginner/casual/alternate shadowmancer. the warlock1 is for player who main this character since it need a lot of investment.

thanks a bunch for the info. No warlock then.

Yea, I think warlock is very good and surpass the sorc1 build if you ready to put that commitment and investment into 1 single character, even if the attribute nerfed it might still be the best 1vs1 player in PVP/TBL/GVG.

But the efforts are unimaginable that you need to consider.

It’s just my preference…I don’t like WL at all, that’s why I decided to pick sorcerer 3… Also I’m investing in my weapon and passives and I do not want to spend all that silver in just one card, so I use templeshooter and netherbovine instead and I’m pretty happy with them… and I don’t play PvP, so I don’t care if WL it’s better cuz you’re the one who need to decide if you want WL or other class in your build, I’m saying for my tests and experience with the build o said and I’m very happy with it