This is HOW IMC solves problems

[redisdarkisred]

Hmmm begs the question, does your server have AFK-Warlock-Macro users too? We do have them and they’re more cancerous than AFK-necros IMO , you can’t even hit a bee They can even occupy the before the bridge/stairs are of the Dina bee “ALONE” “SOLO” kill bees once they touch the black balls w/c makes them earn more gold than necros.

[nagatozeta]

We dont. I guess in Fedinam there is not a single Warlock botter or i never seen one. But i’m a warlock and i used to go on the most famouse places alot of times and never seen a botter.

When i see “non afk” farmer i dont clean the map. But if i see a map with 18 afk farmer i like to put in clear that active players have PRIORITY over people who arent playing at all

[redisdarkisred]

and some people tend to hate necros “more” based on the skills given to them (Summons) hmmmn sounds selective. Well Wolocks does give better leeching exp, that’ll be one point for them.

[redisdarkisred]

Good for your channel then. Nice. or they’re just too sneaky lol.

[nagatozeta]

that’s not the point.
Bot of them have some skill and they can use them.

The problem is that if i want to go on DIna Bee Ch4, for example, and there is people afk i dont have to care about them.
Because they are afk and don’t even complain.

Sometimes people asked me to leave and i did. I leaved them farming and that’s why active player have priority over people who is not even on the screen

[neith720]

I don’t know, but check that post:

[Player Investigation / Drama] Fedimian Bot Army

Time for some brainstorming. We know no one can do anything against the bots. The GMs (haha nice joke indeed) won't do anything. But there still is the big question Who owns the bot army? tl;dr (at the beginning). I was quite sure it's TmD_DyX's army because evidence and traces lead to him but it seems like there is more behind it, especially it seems like it's Legends™ army. What do we know so far? At first there was DyX botting on his warlock. At one point the first Pyro Bots appea…

Maghi had 100m less a month ago, so yea, my calcs were right xD

And now I wonder how odinz wasn’t even in that list a month ago and now is over maghi. Do he has a warlock? And maybe a program to make it work alone? +150m in a month, totally legit for sure, hilarious IMC .

[nagatozeta]

Maybe i just wasnt a Warlok yet.
Btw you got the freedom to kill Grim Reapers in DIna Bee. It’s ok.

BUT: why they have been spawned? Who spawned them?
I guess rules will be rewritten and maybe Necro reworked

[redisdarkisred]

nah that post wasn’t really towards yours it’s a general query. Warlock can semi-afk too, just pop that dark balls and the buffs and afk for a minute? I consider that AFK too. Not derailing the topic or wanting to shift the blames away, but would like to let you guys know that an AFK-macro-warlock does exist and they’re way too cancerous than necro.

nice discussion by the way. please continue…

[neith720]

Don’t you know what happens if character put all the silver to one character? It goes to the top if he have enough money? Or it’s just farmed on one character basics?

Probably nobody knows that, but as soon as you buy something those charts should be updated, so that money wouldn’t be added and would be impossible to reach that high quantity.

I assume that is a farmed per chat, about Odin I don’t know who is he, AFAIK he had a necro, but probably now owns a warlock as well lol.

Focus on the main point, imc fixing the game at its finest.

[Rehail]

A minute of AKF ≠ entire day AFK/more of 1 day.

Yes, bot necro exist, and I didn’t see one of them yet.
And who were a bot got banned.
And silvers are gone with the ban.
I don’t see problem with it.

[nagatozeta]

Since we have Necro experts: how long can stay afk a necromancer? I saw them for many days, in the same spot. I guess it’s kinda impossible witout re-using any spells.
Aren’t them bot?

[redisdarkisred]

Thus being “selective” AFK is still AFK afaik. No one is being banned on our server since I am still seeing the same faces. Good for your server then if you don’t have any “warlock” macro bot (i doubt, they maybe sneak or at DP2?).

Enjoy and cheers

[redisdarkisred]

Easy just chill it’s a better game than ToS. ToF = Tree of Forums no metas no trans just plain and simple lul.

[greyhiem]

in Fedinam there is not a single Warlock botter or i never seen one.

[redisdarkisred]

a “hidden” “sneaky” spot?

[neith720]

Well I can’t do anything about that, it’s completely up to IMC and their staff, join my force to bash imc as much as possible, but if you do, do it properly.
There are forces like white knight which ate known to be illogical and irrational, we don’t want that kind of opinion for us xD

[Aymos1]

While other channels have their Grim Reaper, this one NOT.

They can farm AFK, and I can’t even do a quest that my partner got teased by them when trying to help me to do quests.

eh? so u didnt tryed to do the quest in 3 out of 4 channels where no necros are?

EDIT: i like the censore on names u like but u forgot their chat bubble xD

[gaming.checho]

Theres more bees in the north, so your incompetence of exploring is hindering you from the quest…

cheers

[Latte0]

I used to not bash IMC that much.

But with the cumulative issues, bugs, and mishandling of exploits, hacks, bots, afk farming, I’m going to just assume the worst case (since it’s usually what happens) when IMC does or does not do something, until I see any differences.

[digitalmonsters2001]

Finally IMC is taking action against Dina afkers, Good Job!

Really though the silver gained from Dina bee farm is about 100k silver/hr.
With 5 channels and about 6 necros to fully saturate it at that silver rate. You get 30 necros in total at 100k silver/hr. That’s only 3 million silver/hr and assuming dina bee farm is fully saturated 24/7 by different sets of necros that’s only 3*24 = 72 million silver/ day ( A conservative estimate as dina bee farm is not saturate 24/7)

Dungeon rush compared to dina bee farm map is non-saturatable since it is only limited by the number of characters.
Per day say in klaipeda there is about a conservative estimate of 800 players with High level characters. On average each of those players have about 3 characters at lvl 290+ per player.
Per day you earn 400k for doing the rushes per character
that’s 400k * 3 characters * 800 players = 960 million silver/ day

You are over-estimating the amount earned in dina bee farm basically.
Seriously though instead of being jealous nad smithing necros, just create a necro as well. A saturation point will be made at which no necro would wish to park anymore due to how many there are and p0rofits dwindle.
Let me reiterate.
FARM silver is LIMITED by Channels no mather how many necros there are.
RUSH silver is unlimited, limited only by amount of Characters.

Limiting player choice is bad for the health of the game. I’ve been harping at this for a long time. Happy players play the game longer. Buy tp more and over all is good for the game.

Witch hunting a scapegoat is not the way to do things.
Cutting off a minority of playerbase from doing the things they want to do THAT does not affect other people’s potential to do the thing as well is bad.

Give more players a place to ACTIVE FARM more that gives better silver/hr than Dina bee farm for all I care.
The important thing is that afk farm msut be an OPTION for the game.
ACTIVE FARMING Maps = 500k/hr as an example.

The numbers can be tweaked. Just don’t limit player choice.

P.S. As a final word. What is the fair price/rate for a necro farmer? That is the question

See this post I’ve made before. This is the farm rate of necros compared to everyone else’s.