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[Theorycraft] Wizzard builds after rebalance

From the gif, frost pillar doesn’t seem channeling. But notes do mention an ‘Hold & Attack’ part, indeed.

With enchant fire not applying to party members and with new interaction meteor+flame ground, can we expect a raise in spell scrolls sells? I mean, some archer or swords that want an extra line of dmg will need buy one. And elementalist that longs to do more damage with meteor would buy some scrolls to use along (I’m planning on doing this for my ele3-ff3)

Pretty sure “hold and attack” means it will freeze them in place while dealing damage to them

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I don’t think Frost Will be a channeling skill, don’t know, where do you get that part ?

I think with this change anexo elementalist Will Focus on fire/earth or Ice/thunder, If the CD and DMG scale are good enough probably people Will Drop sage/Lock in rank7-9 to master those skills

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wiz2-Link2-Pysco3-enchanter2

I assumed it would be channeling since it said “Hold and Attack”. Lets say even if it is channeling, they would probably get cancelled by mobs who weren’t hit by the skill.

Where did you get a gif of the skills?

What do you guys feel about the classic ele3WL3 build compared to ele2+pyrocryo

It seems nice that other classes are getting and buff and we can include more skills into our rotation. But with lower CD and 4 overheat on electrocute we might not have the luxury to make full use of the pyro/cryo skills. Furthermore, since frost cloud/storm dust is now circle2, that means we can increase its level to 10 in circle 3 am i right? Together with an attribute (aftermath) which we do not know what it does but from the name it seems like it will continue to do damage after the skill is finished? And prominence seem better than before.

How do you guys think ele builds will fare without quickcast.

I think quickcast Will only be needed for meteor build like wiz3pyro3ele3, other then that only wiz1 ir 2 are enough, eletrocute i think this Will be an filler skill for Frost/lightining wizzard

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How about Linker (any support class actually) + Rune Caster?. Rune of Giant now can cast Buff skills while on Giant Mode, also Rune of Protection need Linker to be very usefull.

Elementalist without quickast should rely on instant cast skills, like proeminence and the new frost cloud/storm, probably. Cast for hail and electrocute isn’t long either, but to use all 4 overheats from electrocute would be a pain.
The nice thingh about these changes is that elementalist is in a really good shape to synergise with many other classes, even kino.

got a cryo 3 ele3 sorce2… i let my summon tank for me while i cast the long ones but i still use the quick ones… oh and its a frost build…

if the new changes comes… i will retain that build just gonna tweek it a little

i also got 3 more sorc one i would respect to pyro3 ele3 sorc2

one use wiz3 link1 sorc2 necro3

last one will have an alch couz i need pots XD

the ele part of my cryo3ele3sorc2 is my bread and butter… hail being nice for boss… cryo for added.control… but if chamges come to wiz tree… well ill try new play style with her… oh my dmg comes.from trans weapon and im pure spi…

i use the cryo3ele3sorce2 to farm HG… sorry in advance if someone will try my build… i already put in heavy investment just to make it viable… buy im happy i made my babies…

After the patch, while they are a lot of synergies and encourage more build diversity are really good thing.
As what I see, mostly are “indirect build”, it mean it need you to apply curse first only to deal dark damage, or you need to ground them with heavy gravity first only to cast StormDust/Earthquake/ShadwConjuration, or you need to apply Freezing then only use physic pressure with Enchant Lightning. Most are fun and strong in paper, but because of cooldown/duration it is hardly perform better than eleme’s direct build, because they have more freedom to do more things in 1min-skills-cycle.

So, I think classic Wizard3-Elementalist3-Warlock3 is still strong and only getting stronger.

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because this is a theorycraft thread… i wanna ask… regardless the other classes… can a kinosage work?? maybe yes?? maybe no?? share your views pls… been ages and wanted to make a dimension witch variant XD

@game8bravo i was thinking about this early this morning, something like cyro3kino3sage2 can work, since kino new ability lock flying enemies on the ground AND you can use cyro3 frost pillar and sage2 ultimate dimension, seens very good on paper :slight_smile:

EDIT: also mix wiz2/wiz3 on the build for the new earthquake extra damage on ground enemies

Wiz2-Kino2-Ele3-Sage2 or Wiz2-Kino3-Ele2-Sage2
Have 2 grouping skills and AoE damage. Imunity against archers, that are a pain to elementalists. Stone curse and psychonesis damage interaction. Lethargy magic bonus. And finally, have the ability to lock enemies inside hail magic circles for full duration of the skill.

Wiz1-Pyro3-Kino3-Sage2
Full control of fireballs. Can duplicate them and group them easily. If flare interaction is strong, can take full advantage of it.
Kino is essentialy a multihit class, so it puts to good use the fire element bonuses from enchant fire and firewall. Also, fireball+pp can be strong now

if im not wrong, on ktos, ultimate dimenson and micro dimension now hit flying enemies

@ResonantSoul micro dimension only

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stone curse need more range, the range right now is ridiculous, maybe combo with dimension compresion, other then that i don’t see much use since it doesn’t hit BOSS, Wiz2-Kino2-Ele3-Sage2/Wiz2-Kino3-Ele2-Sage2/wizz3-Kino2-Ele2-Sage2 sure are options and Wiz1-Pyro3-Kino3-Sage2 can be powerfull if fireball+pp are a thing, duplicate fireball doesn’t seem to be good, since micro dimension alone do more damage and CD is high

Duplicate fireball to use with flare, I meant. Using microdimension to duplicate 2 fireballs is faster than summoning 2 of them with skill. Plus, it’s a way to increase microdimension damage itself, since spawned fireballs would explode again.
Fireball is a [edit] rank 2 skill, so it’s pretty cheap to push enhance to high levels.
Problem with this build is the high sp usage. Kino constant ticks and sage skills with attributes on cost too much.

the problem is the time used for setup this, you need to use fireball>micro dimension and AoE range isn’t high, is best to use skill that atack fast with good AoE, like frost cloud ( storm dust ), endgame wise this would be just filler skills, you probably use micro dimension solo after all