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Theory Craft Pure Spear Shield Build R8 Murmillo

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Sw1>Pelt>Hop2>Rodello2>Shinobi>Murmillo

This is the pure spear shield build that no one takes later in the game, since most classes go two handed spear or one hand spear with dagger.

This build is a mix of burst and dps due to Murmillo buff on spear and shield together with shinobi. (Cassis Crista+Bunshin+Spear Lunge+Synchro thrusting?)

block thanks to pelt, finestra and Rodello skills.

Dodge for a high base dex and guardian attribute.

Tons of cc.

Stat distribution would be 50 con all dex.

Biggest Dilemma is Rodello 3 (High Kick) vs Shinobi (Bunshin Synchro)? There is a lot of pros and cons for on what path should R7 be in this build.

#2

I think taking Rod C3 over Hop C2 would be better.

You’re missing out on another 100% Strike boost, High Kick, and probably the strongest skill on a Murm-nobi, Shooting Star (I didn’t do the math so I could be wrong).

#3

Hoplite c2 for spear lunge (Pierce bonus damage) and 100% uptime of finestra. The debate for me is going shinobi or Rodello 3.
Is the damage boost coming from Murmillo on Rodello skills with high kick outweigh the damage from shinobi?
Rodello 3 gives only damage boost on strike skills, the main purpose of most people getting Rodello was for its defensive skills which Rodello 2 sufficiently gives.

#4

That was before the changes made to Shooting Star.

Anyway, here are some computations for the old skills with Cassis Crista.

The following are not included in this computation and could affect the outcome:

  • Headbutt (+50% strike damage debuff)
  • Scutum Hit (high base strike attack with 3 overheat)
  • Evade Thrust (high base pierce attack with 2 overheat)
  • Frenzied Slash (slash stun skill)

Cassis Crista:

Rim Blow: 400% strike
Umbo Blow: 400% strike

Synchro Thrusting: 280% pierce + 280% (shield DEF x 5) strike

Shield Bash: 200% strike
Shooting Star: 600% strike

Kunai: 500% pierce

(everything has 2 overheat)

Cassis Crista + Bunshin

Rim Blow: 900% strike -> [ ( 400% * 1 Self ) + ( 100% * 5 Clones ) ]
Umbo Blow: 900% strike

Synchro Thrusting: 780% pierce + 780% (shield DEF x 5) strike

Shield Bash: 700% strike
Shooting Star: 2600% strike -> [ ( 600% * 1 Self ) + ( 400% * 5 Clones ) ]

Kunai: 3000% pierce -> [ ( 500% * 1 Self ) + ( 500% * 5 Clones ) ]

Pel1 Hop2 Rod2 Shin Mur1

Cassis Crista + Bunshin + Spear Lunge + Slithering

Rim Blow: 1800% strike -> { [ ( 400% * 1 Self ) + ( 100% * 5 Clones ) ] * 200% }
Umbo Blow: 1800% strike

Synchro Thrusting: 1170% pierce + 1560% (shield DEF x 5) strike

Shield Bash: 1400% strike

Kunai: 4500% pierce -> { [ ( 500% * 1 Self ) + ( 500% * 5 Clones ) ] * 150% }

= 5670% pierce + 5000% strike + 1560% (shield DEF x 5) strike

Pel1 Hop1 Rod3 Shin Mur1

Cassis Crista + Bunshin + Slithering + High Kick

Rim Blow: 2700% strike -> { [ ( 400% * 1 Self ) + ( 100% * 5 Clones ) ] * 300% }
Umbo Blow: 2700% strike

Synchro Thrusting: 780% pierce + 2340% (shield DEF x 5) strike

Shield Bash: 2100% strike
Shooting Star: 7650% strike ->{ [ ( 600% * 1 Self ) + ( 400% * 5 Clones ) ] * 300% }

Kunai: 3000% pierce -> [ ( 500% * 1 Self ) + ( 500% * 5 Clones ) ]

= 3780% pierce + 15150% strike + 2340% (shield DEF x 5) strike

Pel1 Hop2 Rod3 Mur1

Cassis Crista + Spear Lunge + Slithering + High Kick

Rim Blow: 1200% strike (400% * 300%)
Umbo Blow: 1200% strike

Synchro Thrusting: 420% pierce + 840% (shield DEF x 5) strike

Shield Bash: 600% strike
Shooting Star: 1800% strike

= 420% pierce + 4800% strike + 840% (shield DEF x 5) strike

TLDR:
Pelt1 Hop1 Rod3 Shin > Pelt1 Hop2 Rod2 Shin > Pelt1 Hop2 Rod3

If you want better uptime on Finestra (51s/50s) or (51s/56s with attribute), you could just use Zega Spear and bind them both on the same key. Someone posted a guide on how to do it in these forums.

#5

Thanks, very insightful about damage numbers. I’ll try to find keybinds, I really hope IMC implement auto switch weapons on skills in swordsman.