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Theoretical Doppel PVP Build (Critique Me Plz)

Hey, i’m fairly new to the game been playing about 2 weeks now. I’m a big fan of 2 handed swords and pvp so after quite a bit of research and theorycrafting this is what i came up with.

Stats would be Full STR after getting roughly 80 Con and Dex each.

Can any experienced players let me know what my biggest flaws are and any suggestions? I also wrote a little guide based on what i’ve learnt so you can also comment on that if you feel like

welcome to the game, swordsman are currently the worst pvp class.

with your build you have no chance to win…
btw the guy who wrote your guide is really funny…

I’l quate ( Barbarian C1-C3 instead of Highlander C1-C3
Advantages are you will have noticeably better flat dps and more stuns. Looking at numbers Barbarian will be more appealing. It actually makes for a good build. But i prefer the utility i get from Highlander. )

while what he said is ok, highlander have no utility.
bleeding doesn’t count as utility…
barbarian stuns, and defense reduce buffs, and ability to attack while moving (puncing) bring utility, and much more.

Here some example, you may have seen it before.
That’s a Sword>Highlander>Barb3>doppel. notice how usefull the puncing from barbarian. and that’s a high dex build which is weak against magic.

flaws for your build :
lack of CC, move-speed, and accuracy… 2hand sword will deal lowest damage compare to other weapons. even mages nowday wear plate and use con.

against archer who will kite, you will never hit, becouse you have only BASH for knockdown… asumming you have low dex you will not hit, or ever position yourself to land a skill.

against cleric, you will never win for lack of CC chain. which mean if you don’t 1hit-ko which will never happen. you will not kill them.

agains mages, who wear plate and invest con, render your 2h sword useless damage. and they have load of load of load of CC.
magic damage never miss, and hurt alot even if they invested on CON.
so if you invested in dex, to try hit archers, magic will tear you apart.

against other swordsman who invested more wisely, they will knock you down, stun you and block your attacks move often.

suggested classes for pvp :
Cataparcht.
Swordsman C3.
Corsair.
Peltasta C1.

each has it own reasons… but as it stands cataparcht are by far the best right now of all other choices.

Basicly it goes like this
Magic > Evasion > Bruiser > Magic. for counterplay…

best of luck !

your clip is not relevant at all since its really really really old clip
which before pouncing nerf to crap skill
and thats clip pvp just introduce so all pp only build dmg no hp

but yeah i agree s2>h3 is no catch or cc skill so you cant really do anything in pvp

but honestly swordman class just bad at pvp (except cata) and mediocre at pve