If you think people won’t leave based on what they add to the cash shop, this is either your first MMO or you’re a fool. This means either way they stand to lose players and money no matter which decision they make. The only question is if they want to remain true to their ideals or not.
People leave games when pay 2 win enters the cash shop. No one ever said you should be able to freely switch up your circle choice. My very first post on this topic recommended a one Circle redo if any for the soul fact that a large part of a player base is not hardcore. Mistakes will be made and a simple 5-10$ scroll boom. Switch out c3 barb for c1 Pelt and move on.
Who got hurt there? The guy that leveled as a peltasta? No he saved 10 bucks by doing his research as opposed to the other guy losing hours/ days of his life.
Ideals lol. Ever hear of business ethics?
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Im actually starting to agree with vanic… but i want to take it a step further…
- get rid of stat reset potions.
- once an item is equipped its not tradeable, its not sellable. you can only delete it…
- anything you find is yours and noone elses.
- get rid of npcs buying items you find…
- get rid of trade… trade bothers me… this game is all about no reworks… what you find is yours… period. what you do is yours… period… no take backs… no trades…
- get rid of 2nd 3rd 4th character slots… why do you have more than 1 character… 1 is all you need… varic has decided this game has no replay ability.
all of these things allow you to modify your situations… Im exactly like varic and i see exactly like him… get rid of all this excess ■■■■ in my mmorpg of choice.
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I’m all up for a better quality of life so I’m down with the circle reset. The cons don’t really bother me that much even though I’m perfectly fine with my build. One thing for sure is that they need to provide better patch notes with detailed mechanics and ffs get someone to make a legit database.
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Welcome to what feels like a neutral ground Mike.
It’s not neutral ground just because he agrees with you.
Also, everyone has different ideas of what restrictions would be fine, and what wouldn’t. I guarantee with the restrictions you find to be perfect, tons of people would not agree. Many would think they are too lenient, and others would think they are too harsh.
Excuse me; have you read the forums…at all? Plenty of people have said this.
What does this have to do with business ethics at all? Do you just spout out phrases you hear? You better maximize your paradigm! It does have to deal with ideals, from a player to player standpoint, which we don’t agree on, clearly. I’m not a fan of hand-holding.
Ignoring your annoying elitist breakdown of everything I say, I still fail to see how a more than likely unabusable system (giving imc the benefit of the doubt) allowing small changes to your characters circle choice for God alone knows what reason (just because is good) changes much of anything and even less how it ruins anyone else’s experience.
The points you guys keep bringing up only matter if the reset system is wildly abusable and people are just switching their whole build around. Obviously this isn’t intended since we have dedicated crafting classes. But what if you got to rank 7 and clicked ■■■■■■■ c2 swordsman by mistake? Mistake.
So we are back to my original argument for this. ■■■■ happens, IMC may as well get paid for picking it up.
@Vanic my nuts, get off em.
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If you somehow select a class by “mistake” that makes you pretty god damn retarded. You have to select the class itself and then at the bottom hit Accept. If you somehow screw THAT up as a mistake? Here’s your bed, sir.
Most circle rerolls are going to be more than “small changes” as well. Even 1 circle will change how you play your character. If you add a C2 of something, it will really change how you play considering you get even more skills out of it.
Say you do change from C3 Barb to C2 Barb and C1 Pelt. You just lost 1 awful skill and 1 not so awful but still bad skill and gained 2 much better ones. Not to mention a TON of utility. That is a game changer in a lot of people’s eyes. Mine included.
And it wasn’t free. I mean…I wouldn’t just keep buying them. What the ■■■■ kind of budget are you working with that this is a real concern for people? All I know is ill see you end game when I’m taking my arrows out of your chest. How YOU got there doesn’t matter in the slightest.
And as for the change from c3 barb to Pelt being a game changer… yeah… that’s why you would pay the 10bucks like you would for a token cuz…it’s a game changer, or a skill reset. Also the servers were ■■■■■■ and laggy and I deleted a mage because as I was clicking to pick pyro the server stuttered (or whatever) and re highlighted my previous choice cryo and poof. Only c3 so no biggy but any later…
I had honestly forgot about that until just now.
If there is reset circle it should only reset “1 circle” in a 2 month to 3 month delay before being able to use it another time on the team account. And the reason is I feel it kinda remove the magic of this game which is a lot oriented on class building.
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Recommended a million times over and apparently that’s just as game-breaking as any other class reset option
Oh, so you can be arrogant, but when you say stupid things that make no sense, it is ‘elitist’ to call you out on them? That’s a very convenient double standard you have going for yourself there! Besides, if I really wanted to be elitist I could just pick on you for the numerous grammatical errors you make. I don’t though. When you’re going to be pompous and say something stupid simultaneously, however, I’m going to mock it.
It asks for a confirmation after you choose a class. If you accidentally click the wrong class, and then have a seizure causing you to accidentally click confirm, I’m sure you could submit a ticket to IMC. That’s about the only scenario where you could accidentally choose a class though.
It makes about as much sense as everything else you say.
Once again, you choose to go with another double standard. Apparently when you reply, it’s being a responsible human being. When I reply, however, it’s ‘being on your nuts’ or whatever nonsense you wish to describe it as.
Just get of his jimmies? 
The pain… unimaginable.
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Seems I was wrong about heal (and cure) then. My mistake. (PS: I take it the translations are no longer public ;))
But that still leaves the number of tiles unmentioned. As well as the scaling. Someone that reads the tooltip of cure wouldnt know its actually a really good dps spell.
That said even then it’s kind of refreshing to see someone arguing good points. As before, keep it up.
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Good example would be ArcheAge add in p2w.
Indeed. ArcheAge had a ridiculously p2w cash shop.
I vote for CIRCLE RESET !!! Join !
100TP = Circle reset Token = tradeable in market, after use, your last circle gets resetted, but you have to level it all over again after you pick another class.
discuss
(yea painful for Ranks 6, 7, but you have the option to reset the entire character if you wish to re-lvl class skill)
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No need to discuss a good idea.
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