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The "Pay-To-Win" Token Scandal

You are right. My suggestion is a free 30 days token untradable for new users. 30 days is enough to farm another token.

Where do you pull the 1000 number from? How many people do you think have installed this game and then left because the system you think is alright for F2P actually sucks?

This website is actually good for figuring out that one. Excluding the bots I’m sure there’s quite a bit more than 1000 people who think the token system is pretty dumb either way with or without it. Whether you can function playing the game using it or not doesn’t take away the fact it’s there and impacts gameplay hugely.

PS - You’ve all been IMC’d because the real way to F2P isn’t tomes but just make a million Facebook accounts and farm the like contests. That way you can just buy your tokens after you win the free TP!

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huehuehue

ofcourse u wont die if u dont wanna buy a ferrari in real life

ofcourse u wont die if u dont wanna use token in tos

if u put it in such a way

ofcourse u dont have to play tos at all, theres plenty other things we can do, stick n stone is even less buggy than tos.

if u wanna play something, might as well give ur best, right?
playing tos without token is just like going to work without getting salary… it just doesnt worth the effort.

ofcourse u did better tos than i do, coz i already quit tos.

btw, i think token is best for the extra dungeon/mission/saalus entrance and teamstorage

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yes, i agree its completely able to play tos til lv330 without token.
just like real life, u dont need to buy any property/house/car etc and u still able to reach end game (die by natural at age 100)
its so fun

but u cant compete in tbl/gvg without token.

u know why tos is dying? coz the pvp is p2w and the pve full of freeloader parasite.

huehuehue

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Didn’t I write a thread like 2 months ago saying that tokens should be at least 10 m because silver was so easy to farm with all the sorc afkers and scout3 dungeon runners?

And players mocked at me.

Now it’s 2.5m and rising.

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It’s rising thanks to price limit removal, although there should still a highest limit…

Oh since I take time to login in iRO let’s see this comparison 1k WPE = 100 TP, huehuehue… And I’m not premium player either… The Scout 3 equivalent to iRO can only produce like 25m per day excluding card 0.01% drop rate…

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token system is just anoyning

yes it can buy with silver

and use for30days

while getting token in 1-2day is not hard

but problem is it anoyning

when i stop playing and comeback

token price rise

i don’t want to use stocked token when i not have alot of time for long play

but if i don’t use token i can’t switch item from another char

leveling is harder and slower

i can’t level new char easily

this game is broken

99property attack head gear x3

make lv1 char atk1500+ in 1 swing

it stronger than level 100ish weapon

that why i hate token even i can find it

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Token should at least be 8m. Problem is lots of people still buy Silver from Chinese Sellers because they sell at 1.3$/m. That means a Token should at least be sold for 8m to be more profitable than chinese bots.
And to be honest if IMC would just set the Token Price to 10m they would still sell because… you need a Token to play effective. It’s not hard to get 10m in some days if you don’t buy anything new or just pay 10$. This would keep the game healthy but nevermind.

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That’s a GREAT example Sciguma and I would’ve never seen that, if you hadn’t shown us. Being able to buy silver from websites for $1.3 per 1 million is disgusting. That means for about $3 you buy enough silver for a token right now (on my server) which is far less than the 99TP equivalent that IMC charges. Unbelievable!

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That stunt made people rage quit. :smiley:
And made folks drain the market out of tokens

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d145 x 4 scout3 = 990k x 4 = ez silver lel

All those people who couldnt stand getting IMC’ed left in april/may, the last of them in june. Thats why the game is so dead now.

huehuehue

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Lets ante up here and raise the stakes.

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People don’t get how this game and it’s economy works.
The more people get to max level content the more the tokens will cost.

If I’m doing quests for an hour I make half a million an hour, a token cost only two million and you benefit from it for 30 days, hell even in demon prison when you are still low level it’s easy to farm enough to afford a token within a few hours.

Step 1: Get on Discord with your friends
Step 2: Decide on a server that you want to monopolize like Orsha
Step 3: Get hooked son and make sure to feed your guild to the top
Step 4: Crash any channel where someone might be a threat
Step 5: Profit by spewing propaganda on forums that new players have it easy and tokens should be expensive

Am I doing it right?

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I don’t see how any of that is relevant, but if you are agenst people playing the market together then u should limit yourself to offline games.
As for the crashing channels that sucks and cheating should be punished but again not relevant for this topic.

I picked this game up not long ago and with my first character I stayed a few hours in demon prison and bought myself a token (back then for 1.6mil)
How can you say this is expensive when I can obtain it within a few days of starting the game.

So I did do it right?

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In my post ‘it’ refers to the game, in your post it refers to ?

Setting up a system within a system to make new players farm silver for you by abusing exploits of course. That way I can be lazy and have my money work for me instead of working myself! All I have to do is create the perception that X is worth this much and it only takes Y time so that justifies the means. Then when enough people agree with me we can just continuously perpetuate this system artificially if need be through more manipulation. Is that not what people are currently doing?

Why else would they complain about things being cheap in such a small community? IMC gets their money from the tokens and they get their silver which they don’t have to farm it’s pretty simple. After that I can just resell the silver back to the stupid new person too! Kappa

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Totally right!

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