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The Path of the Dragoon Rider

Since there’s amazing classes using spears on this game, may be hard to choose the right path (if there’s one right).

I hope to find clarity about the more complete way to play of these two options:

BUILD 1:
Swordsman c1 > Peltasta c1 > Hoplite c1 > Cataphract c1, c2, c3 > Dragoon c1

STATS
In both cases, I ll probably use a two handed spear as main weapon, and a shield+spear to tank when needed. Since Twohanded weapons have huge damage, and Finestra will give at least +50 crit (up to 150 on build2), I was thinking about this stats:


220 str (106 pts), //for 500 raw base damage (not counting weapon)
60 con (42 pts), //for 20k+ hp (25% hp from pet will be added)
3 int (0 pts), //no need. Block pen 40% from cat passive
20 spr (14 pts) e //a little bit more of mana will help A LOT!!
150 dex (117 pts) //read PS.

P.S.:

  1. 150 dex + finestra 5 will do 200 crit rate, enough for something like 30% crit chance on “100 CON targets” at level 280; After 280, you will probably want more dex.
  2. Raw damage is more trustful than Crits. Consider crits as a bonus for your char. Then, STR 200+ is a must, and enough just because you’re using 2hnd weapons. Probably need more if your trying an 1hnd build.

BUILD 2:
Swordsman c1 > Peltasta c1 > Hoplite c1 > Cataphract c1 > Hoplite c2, c3 > Dragoon c1

STATS
Still using 2hnd spears:


STR 400 (192) //more damage, but I m still not sure if is needed too many points
CON 52 (36)
INT 3 (0)
SPR 20 (14)
DEX 50 (37) //probably will have survival issues, but the crit will be fine since finestra will give 150 crit rate.


Why Peltasta?
The taunt is amazing and gives 25% more life pool, Guard gives 18% evasion, and the passives of Peltasta class like use “C” to hold your shield in defense instance (plus +50% physical defense bonus while doing that) and +25% block rate while equiping a shield. If you ever want to be able to tank, you need one rank in peltasta for the passives.





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Why Hoplite?
It’s mandatory because of Finestra critical and AoE ratio 3 buffs for any lancer build. Stabbing is a amazing multihit skill and Pierce is great to kill bosses and overkill stuff. All of then usable with any kind of spear and while riding. IF YOU GET more than circle 1, then go for circle 3 for Spear Throw. You can do it on your feet and always get back fast your spear for a no cooldown spam skill, possible finisher on pvp.
P.S.: Spear Throw usage “break durability in no time” demanding repair kits, patience or a personal squire. - Thx to @comptewow07


Why Dragoon?
There’s a passive soso but good, almost all the skills are multihits doing a lot of damage with nice cooldowns, have one huge ranged damage with Gae Bulg (pvp finisher).
Class Passive:

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Why at least one rank of Cataphract?
Cause you will get a passive that allows you to use two handed spears on early stages of the game (dragoon gives the same, but only on rank7), and another one that gives you 40% block penetration with 2hnd spears! In addition you will able to ride (huge mobility) and have at least Earth Wave skill (nice aoe rate and damage - nice on lv5, amazing on lv 15).
Class Passives:



P.S.: here is the list of not usable skills while riding:


COMPANION BUFF

WHILE YOUR COMPANION HAS STAMA,
you’ll gain extra stats when riding:
+25% of your companion’s HP
+10% of your companion’s Physical Defense
+8% of your companion’s Evasion

Alternative path

You can get Doppel on rank 6 if you don’t want to ride, but then I ll advice to get hoplite c3 for spear throw (again, if you throw it on your feet, you will get it almost “instantly” giving you a spam aoe skill). You will get ciclone for slash aoe damage, deeds of valor for +100% apsd and stackable +50% damage, and Double Pay Earn just for an extra xp.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT ALL THIS? BE NICE :stuck_out_tongue:

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Really well made mate proved your points well. Now about wich path to take while cata is GREAT I wouldnt miss at least lvl 10 finestra! Tough choices! Thanks for the post keep it up!

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like:

  • Cataphract’s Pet Stats Guide

(again, if you throw it on your feet, you will get it almost “instantly” giving you a spam aoe skill).

yes , except it break durability in no time if you’re doing this … :confused:
i hope i knew that before … but people are doing build without testing them and so confuse people …

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@comptewow07
Nice to know that. I’m really inclined to go hop c1, cataphract c3.

cata is only good for pvp tho

for pve you should get stabbing and pierce , maxing stabbing instead of pierce will give you more dps in more situation , too bad cool down are that long in tos , really break the fun until you get enough skill ( so class rank , so lvl , so time ) in your rotation

and considering the current market / item available on market and such , 1h spear > 2h spear

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just a matter of time, there’s already too many high level cataphracts. For sure, I agree there’s much more 1hnd spears right now.

Totally disagree. Yeap, they’re amazing on pvp, but still great on pve. You still get the hoplite skills (less base skill damage, but still great since you’re be adding 2hnd spears damage on then). The only worry is with Stats wise since Finestra rank 5 gives +50 crit and rank 15 = 150 crit. I really don’t know how much dex is needed at later content.

5 Questions remain:

  1. FINESTRA 5 for 50 crit is enough or 15 is really monstruous with 150 crit?

  2. How much dex (not counting itens or gems) is viable to get criticals frequently… 150, 200? more?

  3. 220 str is enough for a 2hnd build?

  4. IF Hop3, Spear Throw is the only option to have a spam skill, but it will break your itens faster. Does it really make inviable to use it?

  5. IF Cata3, the skill cast charging makes the class somehow “slow” or boring to play?

Cataphract skills can charge while moving. Soloing you Swashbuckle then charge Earth Wave when enemies are gathering around you and position yourself to hit all of them.

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@ryusacerdos
Do you know about stats? How much dex is needed to crit? How many points on str is enough for critical damage and raw damage? If gems can work out these stuff? Do you know anything? Any help will improve the guide a lot. Thx