The list of many things that can discourage the player base and ruins a MMO

[Chakri_Griffindor]

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[momory32]

Going with my own vision.

Game Design problems:

• Single leveling path (There more than 1 possible path at early lv, the main path / main story stay the same soo not totaly wrong)
• Restrictions for building a character (Maybe not balanced class but not restricted, even more free than most game)
• Too many mandatory content or lack of freedom (Hum… Sure there are a limit to content the game itself still developing, KToS Merge patch should help it alot)
• Money TP/Gold stuffs that unbalance or broke the game in any way (The only possible pay to win item are the random enchant scroll statt on hat Also you can obtain them VERY rarely in dungeon and still they aren’t that power once you reach higher lv, maybe you can resell for some silver but then that your choice) Otherwise you got costume, xp tome, classic MMORPG stuff nothing you can’t obtain whitout paying, just thing to make it easier for you).
• Overpowered or unbalanced classes, skills, combos, itens and etc… (True , can’t deny nothing need a buff or nerf, Another thing KToS patch will help but balancing is a big part of many game and since we got such a free build pathway it harder than most MMORPG to balance.)
• Lack of information and borring contest for early game (If you reroll sure a lv 1 class is kinda borring, information can be found on the web but yeah they could really add some information about some skill like kneeling shot that make you unable to use spell while in this stance).
• Too many grind and time loss in the mid game (Grinding in mmorpg is a big classic, but that mostly the lack of 230+ content that cause it, another thing KToS merge will help I think ? I’m pretty sure they had some quest / item and other thing)
• Lack of content for late game (Same as what I said before, kinda wierd you use late game now… and mid game before because there no real grind before 220 or something around that, sure dina bee but isn’t soo bad and also the first grind you will ever do right now)
• No immersion, like changes of things on the fly (Class/Stats resets and similars) (Balancing on thing that got such a freedom of building path… Isn’t easy to change and also whitout destroying entirely someone build, class and stat reset shouln’t be given that easily either.)
• Too many restrictions on player to player interactions like parties, trade and quests (Sure for trade there some restriction but parti ?, Quest ? how ?)
• Extreme and hardcore dead penalties (30% of your equipement durability and the chance of loosing gem that you haven’t store in your bank… Such Extreme, soo hardcore, I guess Hardcore server player of other game will love this game !, There nothing hardcore about it or extreme at all)
• AFK stuffs that affects gameplay (Pet and summon… Pet aren’t efficient at all for summon let see… The only 1/2 afk farming place I saw was DinaBee, Sorcerer summon use 1% of sp each 3-5 sec and negate sp regain, necro summon shoggot can’t kill be fast enoug your equipement will eventualy break and you will die if you are 100% afk, skeleton die over a certain duration to bee, you eventualy die in the 100% afk mode. If a player use any sort of macro like SP potion auto use for sorcerer, then that botting and not a leggit part of the game)
• Repetitive and boring content (Can be put with many thing you said before, like 1 xp path, lack of content, etc… just check whatever i wrote there.)
• No need for strategy or too much easy game experience (Too easy but death penality too extreme… Sorry this isn’t dark soul.)
• Very expensive pay to play or monthly payment (…What ? Does imc come at your home forcing you to pay ? That sound more like a free negative thing to say …)

Art and Development problems:

• Unsolved exploits and bugs (True, they working on them but kinda slow.)
  -Massive and uncontrolled number of bots and RMT (True, it kinda heavy in this game but you can’t also expect mmorpg to not have bot, they come in the same pack, but yeah there alot of them in this one)
• Bad GPU Otimization / FPS drops (True)
• Poor art design (It a chosen type of design, this style will be loved by some and not by other, not everyone love the smooth 3D graphic big compagnie graphic, for my part I love it)

PVP:

• Unbalanced PVP/GVG (KToS Merge)
• Lack of PVP content and arenas (KToS Merge)
• Lack of updates and changes on meta (KToS Merge)
• Lack of e-sports content like tournaments and leagues (KToS Merge)

Response or interaction problems: - Lag, delays, disconnections and network problems - Bad designed controllers and input interaction

Community:

• Big amount of annoying or just rude players (Welcome to the internet, there also some good guy!)
• Lack of support (Kinda true)
• Lack of events and community interaction (We get one in litteraly 3 days but yeah… first one in months T_T)
• Lack of information of any kind (That… Pretty vague, we get some new with Q/A and the rank8 mage etc…)

Then there my top 5

5- Lack of moderation / GM speaking around with people on forum or in game
4- Bot (It part of it, but it kinda heavy in this game ! Thx god my add on auto block gold seller in Klaipedia/Orsha)
3- Exploit/Bug (Those will alway happen after a patch or for no reason at all they just happen and to be expected but… They could work on them a bit faster mostly on the most important one at least.)
2- Lack of content (KToS merge patch COMMING !!!)
1- Bad optimization (After this much time … I’m kinda over it. But dam god I would love to have a smooth gaming session)

[Rhaegar]

You cant party and help your friends. period.

[spymonkey]

Low spawn rate pretty much a buzzkill.

[MoonlessGown]

Hmmm… not sure. Haven’t really have any complaints about this game, but I haven’t reached level cap yet, still at 190. But yeah, one thing that I notice right away is that the classes aren’t really balanced. I could see why many players think that the wizard-class are OP. Anyway… hmmm well one thing that could really ruin an mmorpg is gold/silver selling, which I;m actually glad that it isn’t allowed/or can be done in this game. So at the very least, props to that xD

[joaoalmeidarx]

The list is not for TOS only, it’s for the entire MMO genre.

I share and agree for almost all yours comments about TOS, KTOS patchs will bring another face to the game, better later than never.

[joaoalmeidarx]

Lack of moderation / GM speaking around with people on forum or in game

I edited the list to include this one.

[Marsh]

main things that are an instant buzzkill in itos -

• 5 person parties - let us get 10-12

• fps issues (leads to issues in other areas)

• gvg/pvp content miniscule - bring guild realms, let us have guild emblems, and let us have guild dungeons for exp with pk enabled

• 4 base classes (give us a thief/merchant class)

• combat system (points into stats need better design/scaling, long cooldowns, clerics need better defensive/peeling abilities) - let us at least lower cds with stats and influence attack speed

• no mini-games and intricate leveling areas that actually require thought to stay alive and achieve great exp (at all points of the game)

• exp and damage penalties. just why?

we need better ways to acheive status resists- can be through gear or abilities
-let us have a way to lower cc durations. this game is way too harsh with cc durations.

imo i don’t like how the level cap is 280. it makes the game ridiculously hard for the devs to balance with too many low populated maps. it would have been better if they just did obt with 60 lvl cap and added increments of maybe 10 over-time to see how stuff would go.

[aripck]

• bad scaling of skill dmg
• dungeon entries daily limits when alternatives for grinding/getting valuable items in “open world” sux due to many aspects <probably the main reason for long queues and some dungeons being skipped
• retarded loot system in dungeons/missions, just a cube with generic loot now, can’t even get mats or trash eq from normal mobs
• pvp arena card amount restricted per day
• nothing really to do with guilds too few options
• low variety of things to do
• strange lags and optimization
• some class mechanics have no future in hlvl content
• the game doesn’t tell you about many important things
• class system have too many flaws it should be reworked
• mobs getting boosted when there is lvl difference plus lower exp <the most stupid thing I have ever seen in a mmo
• lvling alts should be much faster

[joaoalmeidarx]

mobs getting boosted when there is lvl difference plus lower exp <the most stupid thing I have ever seen in a mmo

Agree, all MMO have level restrictions on party to share EXP, Why the ■■■■ they nerf the exp of killing HL mobs so much.

[joaoalmeidarx]

we need better ways to acheive status resists- can be through gear or abilities-let us have a way to lower cc durations. this game is way too harsh with cc durations.

I think lower cc durations is much better than random status resist, for freezes/stuns/silences/slows a 5 seconds CC is more than enough, and still if some class have 50% resistence the 2,5s still good.

[namewasveryshort]

So… You want ToS to be RO?

[Arkova]

They had a chance to do a soft level cap with an unreachable curve. Instead, we have 280 levels and its no different from typical MMOs with low level hard caps.

They really scrambled the game’s direction; try too hard to please everyone and you will please no one.

[Rabbit]

mini-games and intricate leveling areas that actually require thought to stay alive and achieve great exp (at all points of the game)

This is a bad thing??

[Wooooooooow]

So… You want ToS to be RO?

Wanting things that are good from some other MMO =/= wanting Tree of Savior to be said MMO

[Marsh]

there are none in tos

[Rabbit]

There are all kinds of gimick and mini-games in ToS. o_o; Though I wouldn’t say any of them that I’ve run into so far are super difficult.

[corsiritsmeurbrother]

Did somebody say minigames?

[kurayami1234]

Many of the problems in the Community and Development area boil down to one single FAIL.

It is called F2P.

[ravenreav]

Hi ppl

Bye everyone, who say “all cool, shut up and go out”.
Do u have fun when play now without “casuals” ?