Tree of Savior Forum

The game needs to offer a free stat reset once at lv 100

General Discussion
#1

Anyone else agree? I am getting tired of having to remake chars due to the stats, like I figured FS cleric would want alot of int, and well, I was wrong, We’d want spirit instead. Mostly for the fact if you go mostly spirit u only need 1 skill point in stoneskin and it’s still god tier. SO now I have 76 int, 26 con and 9 spirit… on my 62 cleric, I could go spirit now but it’ll bug me so much in the long run.

Ragnarok online offers 1 free stat and skill reset useable pretty much at anytime, this game needs to do the same thing so people can fix their mistakes. Remaking chars over and over is not fun due to mistakes that a reset could fix.

#2

I would not mind, there suppose to be a stat reset at the achievement girl in town that gives you teasure box and u use icoins for a reset

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#3

Free restat at 200 I wouldn’t mind. 100 is something you can sneeze out.
At 200 thats when you might think “ah crap this hurts”.

#4

um no lol you WANT that stone skin at 5 for the extra 320 block, SPR or not. I don’t see anything wrong with your build, INT/CON is fine. Full SPR makes zero sense even on cleric.

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#5

Stoneskin is base+(spr4) block. lv 1 is 80 block but if u have like 250 spirit, thats a total of 1080 block. Since 2504 is 1000. Spirit also helps a few other cleric/priest/krivis buffs/debuffs too. I was talking to a level 210 priest that is 125 con rest spirit, and she can confirm that her stone skin adds her total spirit *4 to her block rate, on top of the 80 base. The reasoning for this is since stoenskin scales so well with spirit she was abel to put those 4 points into other things, that she otherwise wouldn’t have been able to take as high. Rememeber the lv cap is something like 300 or some craziness in the kr ver or will be that high, so the extra 320 from only having lv 1 thats lost ends up being moot in the end. Besides, there are skill resets, and I have a while before i’d hit circle 3 priest anyway. I’m not gonna get krivis till rank 6, since all I really want from it is daino. Getting all the priest stuff first is much more important. You don’t even need daino till lategame anyway.

#6

Yup I know the formula, just saying that even with it nobody goes full Spr. Normal Int/Con/Spr builds are fine!

But more on topic, yeah stat reset should be offered since it’s already available on the founder pack. Once you go there you can’t turn back.

#7

Oh I am not saying full spr, but at first Imma only go into con and spirit. actually, I was going to just go con for a while and save all stat points till I decide what I wanna do by rank 5 class choice. 30-40 con should last me up to the lv 115 dungeon, and i’ll save the rest of the stat points probally. I never used spells to attack on my current priest, I had cafrisun set+sac+used +elemental attack property headgears that each hit 3 times base+hit from cafri+hit from sac, at lv 62 my auto attacks were doing over 600 a swing, and thats with nothing at all in str. But yeah, like I said i’ll always save some stat points so I can make changes as needed. I’ll prob add some into spirit at low level though just for the higher max sp.

#8

FS with int is okay if you have a lot of damage spells such as cure, incinerate, zaibas etc. The only thing spirit helps is stone skin, but many people get spirit JUST for this, which I find pretty ridiculous. At higher level, sp isn’t an issue because it increases with level, while sp cost stays the same. Overall int and spirit are just lackluster for FS imo. The only stats that makes a difference is con.

The problem with them giving a reset is people might abuse it. ie, they go full str for leveling and then switching back to a typical FS build at max level.

#9

i was literally just posting in another thread how a little research before starting would save all these problems
i mean all you have to do is look at all the Cler/Prst skills and see most of the formulas are like “X+Spr+(Y per level)”

that said, Int is not -useless- to a FS cler/priest. Int is part of your attack calculations, when using your spells offensively.

either way, ANY build can be effective.

but that’s kind of the point of this game’s attitude towards the characters: make your selections with care, it’s not going to be easy to fix later.

#10

Only after major stat reworks and reblaances ^^.

YOu failed if you put it wrongly.
Start over or buy founders pack1~

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If you had read up on IT before deceding on your class. That wouldn’t have happened.

The prepared people… actually do read stuff before they do stuff.

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#11

I doubt we’d get a free reset potion. I’d take a reset potion shop unlock at level 200 though. Sell them to me for like 2mil silver ea. Yes, I’m serious.

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#12

like @greenfoxy21 said, you’re only going to get a free reset potion after some -really- major rebalances…
like suddenly CON no longer gives HP, or DEX no longer gives Crit or something.

#13

Don’t really agree, decisions should matter. You can decide to have a slightly harder start for better potential late game or sacrifice some late game for an easier levelling experience.

It’s a quite easy start regardless since the majority of your levels come from quest provided exp cards.

I don’t see an issue.

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#14

IMC would lose out on a lot of players that would purchase stat reset potions from the TP shop. While I understand it would be nice to have a free reset at a certain level, it’s not greedy if they don’t offer it.

#15

That probably would be something i would find okay.

But heck xD…

I can see thousands of people cry PAY TO WIN.

As people with money can make an PvE heavy optimized char… then switch to pvp stats. And then switch back to PvE when new levels get added xD.

It’s a thing that needs to be treated … carefully.

#16

In KTOS they got them, after some rebalancing.

xD so yes. We will get some… maybe?^^

#17

It seems you guys have never played RO or Diablo 2, where you had to plan out your choices ahead. Unfortunately this is a korean MMORPG. They will not handhold you like western MMORPGS, and as such they expect you to do research and care about your class.

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#18

Is it some kind of “only childish suggestions allowed” day for you, scyris? First crying over not everyone speaking English on the shout chat (the thread got deleted pretty fast because it was really racist) and now this one which would pretty much break the basic idea of this game… :expressionless:

There needs to be elements that appeal on older audience as well, you can’t whine and demand removal of every part of the game that needs thinking or makes something challenging.

#19

so far, IMC has said that stat reset potions will only be available in the Founders’ Pack 1.

this is one of the major differences in the thought processes between korean vs american mmo’s.

generally, korean mmo’s (including IMC/ToS) seem to have an attitude that suggests they want the major decisions you make about your character (major investments of stats, each rank that you pick, etc) to have a significant and lasting impact on your character, while at the same time minor decisions (need a little extra bit of con, or want to take a class at a certain rank that isn’t part of the “cookie cutter” build, etc) should remain minor in the overall sense. a couple of points of stats (or even a couple dozen, when you have 280 levels) won’t make too significant an impact in the long run.

whereas many american mmo’s take a very low-investment approach to the characters. they are fluid, easily changeable… something you can rewrite on a whim. you need to get ready for the big pve raid? respec. you need to gear up for the pvp tournament? respec. it’s saturday evening and you’re bored? respec.

that said, somebody is going to bring up yap about how “they’ve already changed their minds about X and Y.” and that’s not an invalid point. 3 months from now? a year? who knows what they’ll decide in the future.

#20

Pretty much. And a good game should penalize mistakes, just like real life.