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The game doesn't have Tanks

healer replaced by relogging and going back into dungeon with full hp

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I’m glad that tanks aren’t a requirement (not a fan of trinity), but I want swordman to be viable too.

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You have many choices of classes to pick from. Ele/warlock, cyro/chrono and a healer. I think there are other classes, im not sure.

It’s clear you understand Tree of Saviors system, so I assume it is a problem with coming to terms with the fact that the necessity of the Tank is not MMO gospel truth but in fact only one construction of how classes should work.

Tree of Savior doesn’t require tanks. The ā€˜tank dead, okay we’re all dead’ is not a ā€˜traditional’ nor a given in MMORPGs. This HEAVY reliance relationship on both Tank AND Healer was heavily popularized by World of Warcraft and many western games, and while NOW it has become the norm I hardly think that it’s the way of the world.

Expectations like these only serve to make the future potential designs of characters and classes stale.

If it’s anything that games like Ragnarok Online, Tree of Savior and Dota have to teach is that there are SO many vital, interesting and creative roles and combinations of those roles that can work in wierd and quirky ways.

I’d like to bring up an example of the epitome of the opposite to what I am proposing which are the class restrictions in FFXIV:ARR’s 4v4 PVP. You MUST have 1 Tank, 1 Ranged DPS, 1 Melee DPS and 1 Healer to enter. No other combinations are permitted.

If anything we should be overjoyed that there is an opportunity here for less prescription and more variety. Less necessity and more possibilities.

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Ah, don’t bother with this topic, I raised it many times in the swordman buff arguments.

Most people can’t seem to differentiate between a tank and a lure

If you go by tank definition, cleric is the best tank with safety zone, since it protects party from damage.

Swordman now is as good as a lure only. Since higher level mobs rekt everything, and swordman DPS is crap.

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you know why this game doesnt have tanks? cause most of the tanks in ToS are ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  stupid. they so stupid that they almost become extinct.

they dont even know the basic of tanking like back facing the wall so knockdowns doesnt move the boss and face the boss away from the team.

literally all str no int.

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Author has a point. Still not worth not taking Pelt, tho. I regret not taking it for my swordie.

http://pngimg.com/upload/tank_PNG1320.png

its true i haven’t seen one of these in game yet

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That’s the new rank 8 archer class.

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you have to go cannoneer SR to get it

I never denied that. Linkers are also luxury, so are chronos, even clerics are a luxury as you can pretty much clear any content without them. The only thing you NEED is the ability to deal damage, which everyone has, obviously to different degrees.

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do you know rod are meant to dps and not tank? pelt is the only true tank class

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i believe there is a tank but there is no tanking system. even if there is a tanking system it is not as good as those in other game like wow or FF14.

beside pelt there is highlander which can crossguard and fencer who can parry but harder to use.

the problem with those tank is that they went str/con/dex. if they want to mitigate magic more then get spr or wear some cloth gears for more magic def.

players in this game just dont experiment enough. everyone want to make the same build

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Why do most people mention p3 rodelero 3 and not squire 3? It’s by far a better meat shield (tank)

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I do agree that is mostly bait posting, but im bored. Put on Tin Foil Hat, Lets to do this LEROYYYY POSTING!!

Equally relevant and to follow your own logic:

Healer are not need for instanced dungeons, i mean have you even que for dungeons past 90, there rarely any healer and people clear them just fine.

As someone pointed out, in the same manner as GW2 no class is really needed for this game content with the exception of doing ET. Grinding goes faster with a healer, but you can do fine with pots/bonfires. To add if you buy aukuras and healing aura scroll makes needing a healer a mutt point.

TLDR: Is not just tank, healer are not needed at all.