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The dream of rank 8

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#1

Will for most people remain forever a dream.

There is not enough exp cards in the game to hit 280, let alone rank 8.
Missions and dungeons give so little exp you can’t even count them as a source of exp anymore.
Server population has hit such an all time low it’s getting to the point where you simply cannot find a grinding party when having one is mandatory.

If you want to put it into perspective, if you get every single exp card in the entire game, you’re short over 300 million exp to hit level 280.
That is 300 million exp you need to grind. Without a party, that will take you months.

Put this all together and what it means is you either need a group of friends your level, have to be 280 or close to it, or you’re simply not going to get to rank 8 until around Christmas (if you’re grinding all day everyday).
There are so few players that most new players will simply never reach rank 8.

I know there is no point in posting this in the feedback area because IMC don’t care about the players and stopped listening to them long ago. But for anyone planning out their rank 8 build who isn’t already close to rank 8, you may as well just give up. With the constantly decreasing player numbers if you’re not close to rank 8 already you’re never getting to rank 8.

#2

I think you should review your game style on ToS, there are a lot of people at 280 with Lv 15 R7 already, some are doing the dailies for EXP cards to when they do the class advancement for a few levels, not to count the cards that drop from monsters and some left from monster kill count and exploration.

Not to say that with the new Rank it will probably change some other stuff and also there will have new maps since the level cap will increase to 330 or something.

Also as for grinding, Support builds can pretty much find at least 1 person to grind with, and who is DPS can pretty much solo some areas that give some good EXP.

There is no need for fret in the actual game as far as leveling goes, unless you messed up something, even tho, with no cards i can pretty much level by grinding or simple farming what i need.

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#3

Dude, dont know whats your server, but here at SILUTE we have grind partys shouting all day long on every single range lvl of the game, even Maven. Yet, you can lvl up with missions and card till lvl 250 without problem if doing counts and you will get new quests when rank 8 come.

If there are no people at your server, just John a guild and help each other. Whinning about population wont rly help, but Will make New players not to come, so whats the point?

#4

i hope they do add some maps or extra exp cards around level 130-170 and 210+ because i have a character i have stopped leveling because he is in 150 grind wall and usually i slowly stop playing the game whnever i get to that grind wall

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#5

I’m level 244. Haven’t seen an evac grinding party in 3 days.
Queuing for the 240 dungeon takes hours.
3 Mission runs a day + dailies gives me 4.1 million exp.
If I do every quest left in the game + map exploration + kill count I will run out of exp cards at level 265.

That means I need 386 million more exp to hit level 280. With my class and build, that’ll mean I have to grind for just over 300 hours to go from 266 to 280.

300+ hours of solo grind because there is no one playing the damned game anymore. If I grind 5 hours a day + do daily mission runs (which can take an hour+ of queuing due to lack of players) it’ll take me 43 days to do that grind. That is 43 days of playing a minimum of 6 hours a day, probably more if you factor in travel time and so on.

It’s not even worth the effort. I pity anyone who is thinking about making an alt and wants to get it to rank 8.
And with dwindling player numbers it’s only going to get harder to do daily chores.

#6

yeh this is the main reson why i dint like making new chars, imc needs too add more exp cards from level 130-280, i doubt they wil becvause they didnt for the ktos

#7

I think you are doing something wrong here. I am level 260 and have enough spare cards to still jump me to 268 without grinding very much and my storage quest is not yet completed.

Have you taken note of the following?

  1. Dungeon 200 and above gives lesser exp so going there to queue is not worth it. I just solo dungeon 200 for the drops and does not expect to gain much exp on dungeon 200 and above. You with your guildmates could run the virtov dungeon thoough just for the gears.

  2. Vibora NPC in klaipeda is a lot of help it gives you additional card and when you get additional level 11 exp cards it is a lot.

  3. Missions like Siualai gives lesser exp 230 and above. I felt that longer queue there is not worth it than quest or grinding but still gives that extra oomph of exp if party match is fast.

  4. Guildmates makes it more easier to level since you can plan grind schedules or just shout.

  5. Support Builds like chronos actually loves grinding so maybe instead of waiting if there are anyone shouting. You can spare yourself a few event TP and buy shouts and set it up. I have personally heard from other chronos that they cant solo much thus they rely heavily on grind.

  6. I got a guild mate who said that he got to level 280 doing merc missions and dungeons daily in just i think 2months so there’s that.

#8

Yea because they will never add any more quests then there are. Maybe you should wait until rank 8 is released before you complain how long it takes.

#9

Rank 8 is not 280 though. Rank 8 is somewhere around the realm of 272. Now I don’t know for sure if rank 8/raising level cap comes in the same patch as the new zones but if it does, it does make sense that there would be higher level cards. Maybe even add higher cards to the mercenary post dailies.

And yes, the higher the level cap climbs, I think the less inclined people will be to roll new chars, leading to an eventually top heavy game. This has the unfortunate effect of chasing away newer blood as the lower level content feels ‘dead’. Kind of like now. Add in ‘archer and wizard are op’ statements and you have the current hell of not having a cleric for your dungeon runs majority of the time.

Maybe they can add something like an extra random queue, where you can be thrown into any dungeon from 50-330 and you get scaled up and down appropriately and where monsters give scaled xp too.

#10

If you use every single card in the entire game. From all quests, map exploration and kill count, you get enough exp to hit level 265ish.

Dungeon and mission runs might seem like they give lots of exp at low levels because a dungeon run might give you a full level or two (or 5 at low levels). But these runs are 1-2 million exp when you need 20 million to level up. All the dungeon runs I’ve ever done are probably less than 2 levels at 265+.
Missions likewise just give trash exp. 1 million per run at 240 with token benefits. That is 20 to get 1 level at 265+.

I’ve still got plenty of cards I can obtain. Problem is they will only take me to at the most 268. Then I need to grind 12 levels when there is no one left playing the damned game anyway.

Also to the people saying they’ll just add more quests to make it easier to get to 280. They didn’t in kTOS, why would they in iTOS?

#11

Grind workshop… I am leveling there with a monk right now… Lvl 269. I hit anywhere from 2 to 9 mil exp an hour. Depends on how determined I am… full map clear = around 5℅ …

I did not grind at all until 267 when I ran out of quests… You are missing quests I bet…

Also I am on orsha, the least populated server of all.

Another point, have u not played Korean MMO be4?

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#12

I already said in my previous post that dungeon level 200 and above falls off in exp. If you want exp dont waste time in that. it is not cost effective.

I dont get what point you are trying to get across.
I already enumerated possible scenarios there and in KTOS level 281 resets character base level (based from what I read) so it is fairly easy to level and new cards provide more exps.

Also, you may want to improve your setup. don\t wait and look in the shout box. Set it up yourself and see if you can find anyone or maybe all of you are just waiting for anyone to setup a grind in shout.

#13

The point is, I need to grind from around 268 to 280 when there are no grinding parties. So I have to do is solo and it’s going to take hundreds of hours with my character.
I don’t care if there is an exp reset at 281. I wont even get to 280 without a few months of grinding because NO ONE PLAYS THE GAME ANYMORE AND PARTY GRIND IS THE ONLY VIABLE WAY TO LEVEL FAST.

#14

you need to fix that, unless you mean it takes a few months of grinding solo, while party grindf is fast

#15

Enough to power me upto lvl 302+ by the time rank 8 comes here. Never did any grinding. I also have 264 linker that never grind too, only doing quests. All quests should be enough to land you at lvl 270+. You can hit class 15 at 272-277.

#16

I literally said, solo grind is slow, party grind is fast. But finding a party is impossible because there is so few players left in the game. I don’t want to solo grind 1-1.5 million exp an hour when I need 300+ million exp.

Also, all exp cards in the game only gets you to about 266. That is every single card from quests, exploration and kill counts. I’ve literally gone and added every single one of them up. It’s about 800 million exp or so. Getting to 280 requires 1.188 billion exp, so you got to get 388 million more from somewhere.
There is no way you can get to 260+ while having so many spare cards without doing a lot of grinding.

#17

I never grind lol, not worth the time. Mission and dungeons are enough. Ill rather farm or get rich than mindless exp grinding.

Here are the pictures of storage and maven mobs if youre in doubt.

#18

Now to to character screen > Achievements and look at the Familiar Hunt achievement (kill 1 million things) and show us how much stuff you’ve killed total.

#19

Majority of them are from hunting rare items, not gonna tell what are those. But those are the items you have trouble of getting basically your problems are my profits.

#20

Why man? WHY? I’ve got 4 200+'s and 8 150-199’s.

Here is what I do, with really no Grind at all.

I skip lv1-2 cards.

I collect all lv3 Cards. (Besides Monster Kills)

I collect all lv4 Cards. (some Monster Kills. Low Number Required.)

I use those Cards as soon as I need them. All of them Pre 4-5 Cards.

By the time I get to this point, I’m usually ahead of the game via Dungeon runs (lv50/followed by 90)

I collect all lv5/6 Cards.

132-145 is spent running the 130 (Tend to use an EXP tome if I have it) and Missions as well as doing my Card collections.

145-163 I use all lv5-6 Cards which usually gets me to 160 or so. Maybe higher depending on Kill counts. So either grind those 3 levels. (A couple hours if that) or wait for Dungeon/Mission Reset.

163 I stop what I am doing and do every single lv7 Card quest as well as some 8’s. I save them til I get to Nuoridin Falls(?). Mobs should still be within the 10 lvl gap. Card up to 177. Bam. Done. With very little grinding.

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