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The Definitive Solution to Bots

Hello guys, you may call me Velvet.

I noticed we have a huge problem with bots, and I want to
suggest something. I tried on brazilian forum and I had A LOT of thumps
up to that suggestion, so I decided to make this post (also a ticket), and HOPE that you guys take it seriously.

Everyone by now knows that banning accs and making a bot detector
system will not work, not even a gameshield system by security company
works, games tried that before, and this won’t solve the problem, and
now we players (and probabily you) fear that this game might face its
demise by bot crowding like gun bound, grand chase and ofc Ragnarok.

My suggestion its something I saw on Wakfu, a game by Ankama. And to
make it REALLY SHORT, its a in-game Captcha system feature, diguised as a
feature so that it avoid any kind of frustration by players.

On Wakfu everytime we were farming, we would eventualy (randomly and
impossible to predict) get a encounter with a cat named “Cap’ N Acha”.
This cat would propose a mini-game (that we had no choice but to play),
and that minigame would have some 6-dice symbols with some optical
illusion (actually just very diffuse and somewhat hard to read dice
numbers), If we won we were instantly rewarded by great bonus on that we
were farming (which maked the cat very desirable to face and beat for
any player).

But if we lost (and eventualy it did happened because of the difficulty of
reading the diffuse symbols/busy on phone whatever), we would get 2 debuffs:

1: -30% farming gold/xp/item until we find AND BEAT Cap N Acha (stackable)

2: 90% chance to find Cap N Acha on every encounter until we beat him.

Once you lost to Cap N Acha you were going to find him on almost
everything that you try to farm, and If we found and lost to Cap 4 times
we would be unable to farm anything at all, getting 0 xp, 0 silver, 0
resources, until we finaly beat him.

I wanna clarify that he was not hard to beat, it was a simple minigame
with some diffuse images, but bots wouldn’t ever be able to tell the
confusing images from the dice numbers that those images would
represent, making a simple Captcha system, it fitted the Wakfu theme of
cute things and cats, while also greatly rewarding the encounter.

It was a major success and people would even complain on their unluck
on guild chat when they DIDN`T find him. Like “omg i’m farming 1 hour
and no cat! I need it that bonuses are sweet!”.

After Cap N Atcha I played 3 years of wakfu without seeing ONE SINGLE bot.

Please do consider some kind of system with a captcha included, this
would make banning bots a thing from the past, and do it in a way that
it
could be easily (but not automaticaly) scrambled in a new
functionality, so that bot programmers that somehow found how to beat
the captcha on bot would need to reprogram complex codes every 1/2
months, making this bussiness too risky on any serious programmer
financial perspective.

~Velvet.

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I came expecting a shitty compromise, glad you proved me wrong. This actually seems like a true fix. In one single swoop it would deal with them once and for all. I am all for this if it means we can have our basic rights in an MMO given back to us (true free trade, none of this soulbound shit that WoW seems to have rubbed off on everyone).

+1 totally with you, I was playing Wakfu like 2-3 years too and it’s true, didn’t saw a one single bot with that system in all these years. Pretty accurate suggestion.

I do think that this is the way to deal with this situation.

The diference between players and bots is that players can think and bots can only do what they’re programmed to do.

Do something that forces that player to “think” (Wakfu Captchas were easy), if he does it, good, here is some chocolate for you.

If he doesn’t, then its probably because he’s a bot.

It’s a win-win situation.
Players get bonuses and bots get penalties.

same with sreda67, i thought just some uneducated stupid post but i was wrong. (you might want to work on that name winkwink)

i upvote for this, however i do feel like we need to work on the xp bonuses , I DONT WANT PEOPLE FARM TO FIND CAT. maybe like 10% of current xp pool or something.

great job on it. now lets just pray IMC can see this and consider it.

perhaps if the “bot checker” is failed 4-5 times, the player’s team name is added to a list for evaluation. This list wouldn’t immediately condemn the player for being too dumb to answer the captcha properly, but it would help give the Staff a heads up on bots that repeatedly get their name entered into the list.

My name? q.q… whats wrong with my name?

(seriously i`m not an english person so, what am I missing here that makes me sound like a dumb person?)

And btw thanks a lot guys I realy hope this gets noticed and helps = ]

hmm, since bots can basically bypass generic captcha system,

a randomly triggered event like this would prolly help a lot…

i also heard about a bot catching ingame trigger that would teleport one to a map and from there the event would require one to solve some random quest before getting out.

success = boost

although, imo, the best option would be adding manpower to manually AOE ban hammer bots from time to time. but that requires a lot of effort and an additional salary expense for IMC wkwk

GM read this please
@STAFF_Max @STAFF_Ines

Nice post, nut imc don’t care
eles não ligam pra gente Michael

Please read it and foward it to the developers, this might be what we need to save the game.
@STAFF_John @STAFF_Amy @STAFF_Ethan

That’s really FANTASTIC!