Tree of Savior Forum

[tanker][PvE] (mostly) - Could you give me a light?

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hi, guys!

So, i’ve past two past days reading all those guides and started to rethink my build. I’ve made those two lines. Please, there are some points that i present in the entire post, if you have some time, i would love your opinion on everything you can help.

  1. Sword - Peltasta - Peltasta - Peltasta - Corsair - Fencer - Fencer
  2. Sword - Peltasta - Hoplite - Hoplite - Corsair - Doppel - Doppel/Draggon

The point is: What give to us more reliable defensive bonus 1)Fencer evasion OR 2) Finestra? I don’t know what will be more usefull at the lategame, so ive got stuck.

I know that Rodelero2 has the Slithering that can avoid magic attack, the most terrible nightmare to us, but does this 2 ranks worth it? I’m really not up to, hated the class skills (however, they could benefit the party increasing their damage, right?). I’m working on it, building a extremely high mdef set, starting from Sage Wall. Will this be enough to avoid Slithering? I’ve made a Arch2QS3 just for these kind of purpose. In the case that Ronde should a need to be class, what about:

  1. Sword - Pelta - Pelta - Ronde - Ronde - Fencer - Fencer

I’m aiming the 2:1 Con:Dex. First, I had planned 3:1, but after the guides, i think that 2:1 could be enough to deal some damage and not just guard up… What do you think?

All the skills are aimed to take something out or in the mobs, SPECIALLY bosses. So, if don’t work on boss, I’m avoiding, except it gets something real nice.

Corsair!! Why?! Well…
First of all: me and my wife are making and cartoon project with a space pirate baby (i know, silly and strange, but it is growing to something!), so I loved the opportunity to bring he up to the game! =D
Second: Since the build is highly focused in PvE, i thought that some skills PvP could be nice to the lategame and future GvG. Since the build is for the pourpose to endure and apply any kind of debuff, Corsair was the more efficient rank5 choice.

Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance for any help! Please, be confortable to make any suggestion.

#2

This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.

1 Like
#3

Geez… hahahahaha

Ok, ok… fair enough ^^

But hey, i wll wait for you comment later then! Cya!

#4

First my friend you have to decide, in this game there is nothing like pvp,gvg and pve + earth tower at the same time, you have to sacrifice something to win something in exchange like everything in life lol. So you have to decide first, i want a pve or a pvp character( there is no pvp so it would be worthless to do one) so i answered the first question for you, then you have another question that is, i want to do damage o be usefull and tanky for my team, when you have done that you can decide what character you want to do and what path you want to take.
Finally as an advice if you are going swordman for tanky, pelts 1 is enough most of the time to tank almost everything, so if you mix it with a fencer it would be even better for the evasion plus you will have some damage( some good damage for a tanker).
And a last advice dont listen to this kirito fans in this forum, they think that if a tank doesnt make damage like a wizard or an archer it is a worthless class and it is unbalanced jajaajajajaj, but believe me whatever the path you take there is gonna be some use for it, maybe not the one you want most of the time but there is a use for them :slight_smile:

1 Like
#5

Hi, matiasfer3, thanks for the reply.

You got the exactly point: damage dealer. This was really upset and made me review everything I was building for.

I HATE PvP. With the deep inside of my guts… I was only giving a dot to the PvP thinking way ahead, where could have exclusive gears through GvG. But answering your question: PvE + ET, without a doubt.

I don’t care to the damage, love the tank role, call everything and hold my ground so the party could safelly do their job. I was only looking for it afraid that could have a bit of trouble to find a party at 240+

What about the point of Rodelero x mdef set? What is your opinion?

And here i go back to the 3:1 stat then =D

I know that pelta1 is enough, but what should i take in the rank3 then? Sword2? More time with Pain Barrier? It’s the only tanking option available - in the case avoiding hoplite to the Fencer tree.

#6

Soooo i didnt understood so well because of it:
You got the exactly point: damage dealer. This was really upset and made me review everything I was building for.
I don’t care to the damage, love the tank role, call everything and hold my ground so the party could safelly do their job. I was only looking for it afraid that could have a bit of trouble to find a party at 240+

I didnt understand if you want to be tank or damage dealer so i will answer the two situations jajajaj.
As Damage dealer the best option you have now is the “meta” build for swordmans Sword>Pelt>Hop>HopC2>HopC3>Dopp>Dragoon, yo could addapt it to you and make something like Sword>Pelt>Hop>HopC2>HopC3>Corsair>Dopp (Doppel is better than Dragoon in this case because of the Corsair choise you will be missing and AOE hard damage that is Cyclone), But REMEMBER the swordman class damage doesnt come from level like other classes, it comes from EQUIPMENT+High level Skill Attributes (They are quite expensive to get them to level 50 or 100 x.x) so you coud feel disappointed at first when you do low damage, but this doenst mean that you will do TONS OF DAMAGE like an ELE or a Fletcher, so if you choose this path (the swordman path) you must always keep that in mind even if you are tank o damage dealer. You can tank decently to almost everything with no problems with this builds.

But if you want a real hard tank you should pick Sword>Pelt>PeltC2>PeltC3>Squire>SquireC2>Templar, in KTOS is very popular tanker i have never seen one my self in game but in videos they get around 55k-60k HP and can tank earth tower so easily (This could answer your question of getting a rodelero in your build), but a tank always deppends from getting a helear :c, it doesnt matter how tank you are, you will never be able to tank for more than 20seg in places like ET without a healer, if it is a dungeon you should have no problems but remember you will never be inmortal. The only problem with this is that is SOOOOOOO BORING to play that way in my opinion fencer gives MORE FUN, MORE FASHION,MORE DAMAGE YEAH BABY!, so if you choose this path of fencer you have two options:
Sword>Pelt>Barb>BarbC2>BarbC3>Fencer>Fencer C2
Sword>Pelt>Barb>BarbC2>Corsair>CorsairC2>Fencer

The first one is the common fencer build you will get damage enough to grind by yourself everything with no problems but rememeber you will never have the AOE ATTACK like the Spears Build( the first builds that i mentioned to be damage dealer, remember this is a “tank” anyways) so that mean that you wont hit many monster with your attacks.
The second one is twice Corsair because it picking Corsair one time is not worth in this case, you will lose aoe attackS from Barb C3 but i have read that is good build.

Soooo now it is your time to decide what path take, if you have any question you can ask but i will answer tomorrow because it is time to sleep here, good luck :slight_smile:

#7

Lies, I raise you sword -> pelt 3 -> rode 3. Fit everywhere

#8

I’m sorry, i really need to increase my english level =P

I love the tank role, i don’t care to do damage and don’t have any rush to it. Already had Monk200+, QS3 140+. This build is for love and fun.

I didn’t get that Squire and Templar as a defensive set of ranks…The function of Squire would be to repair the equipments of the party inside the dungeon? The templar i really don’t get it.

That Barbarian tree… With a 3con:1dex stats, can be really useful? I see your point: the damage comes from the equipment, ok. I’m a bit afraid in pick a great damage dealer rank instead of defensive and be just a “half-everything” - not a good dps neither a great tank.

I liked the Barb2 Corsair, but Corsair2 gives more Damage then the Fencer2 combo?

#9

Cosair2 only gives more damage if you are using Spear+Dagger or Sword+Dagger or Rapier+Dagger.
Because of Hexxen the dropper.
Do you even have pelt in the 1st place?.

Getting squire is also for supporting. Majority of 200+ is just grinding so having a base camp is useful. Plus repairs and making silvers.

Templar is a just optional if you wanted a guild. Else Just Pelt3>squire3 is enough.

But regardless of everything swordman can never do damage unless it a doppel with deed of valor and cyclone. but even with these 2 it no use.
cleric,wiz and archer will always be way above us in dps and damage.

So best choice is full tank.

1 Like
#10

Thanks for the reply, @Reflet

I have an extremely low time per day available to play. It is impossible to stay something like 2 hours+ grinding. I know that this pushes me to a very slow lategame, but i’m pretty ok with that. In this scenario, I’m afraid that Squire ends kinda useless to my playtime/style.

I have a pelta1 atm. I’ve stopped his level till get this resolved (level 34). Going fulltank, 3con:1dex. I’ve just focused more on Dex in the beggining to help him level up solo, at least at 100 Dex, then I’ll put everything in Con.

Thanks again for your answer. You guys are really helping me a lot. I have no idea of what the lategame asks as a efficient tanker and your answers are starting to help me drawing the kind of char that i want and love to play aligned with something really tough to the high PvE instances.

#11

@matiasfer3 , what do you think about trading the barbC3 for CorsairC1 and then Fencer 1-2?

The point is that with Corsair I could take another CC skill instead of just levelup the barbarian skills. It is a good change or it is worhless? I know that the second build that you suggested have both, but pushing the Fencer to the rank7 isn’t a waste of rank?

#12

Well, to be honest if you are going 3:1 CON:DEX anything that adds some damage would be usefull in my opinion so it up to you, because you wont be a damage dealer, you will be a tank so with pelstata 1 and fencer C2 would be enough for tanking.

A Conclusion would be that you must take pelstata 1 and Fencer 2, whatever is in the middle of it is up to you, you can add some damage with barb c3, highlander c3(doesnt work so well with fencer but it works in its way), rodelero,Barb c2+corsair, any choise will be good in this case since you are not looking damage but fun and tankyness :slight_smile:

1 Like