So Im thinking of Getting Cata1-Dragoon
Currently I am SW-Pel-Hop3
I get know normally ppl get Dopel1-Dragoon for Deeds of Valor and Cyclone for AOE
But I am wondering if Cata1 is viable as a C6 choice. Mainly for the Stat inc that a mount provides me and the addition 3 moving speed from a mount.
If by “stat inc” you were referring to the increased movement speed from the mount, I am not totally sure how noticable to movement increase is, but wether it is viable or not, I would probably say it is not, mainly because I am not sure if dragoon skills can be used while mounted. and I feel that If I were to get cataphract I would want to get at least circle 2 or 3, but if I were to get circle 1 I would probably max earth wave trot and impaler or steed charge, but I would probably do steed charge because I don’t really like impaler. As far as Cataphract vs doppel I t hink doppel wins my favor, I might try out a cataphract build later though.
Stat Inc is the Inc in HP, Def, Eva and a passive 3 moving speed increase (Roughly 10% mspd inc)
I researched it. Dragoon Skills can be used mounted.
Could give me some of your opinions on Doppel?
From what I gathered Double Pay earn and Deeds of valor are pretty good support skills for your character, and like you mentioned above Cyclone is good AoE and Mordschlag in my opinion seems to be good even at level 1 or 2. But it all comes down to what you like really.
If you are only PvE, that’s an OK choice, you get earthwave which add strike damage that hoplite need, some trot for faster travel and steed charge + impaler for fun.
But that gonna be a wasted rank for PvP
I plan to do mostly PVE
Agreed, as far as PvE goes I don’t think you can mess up enough to make your character useless, but I don’t think you will be gaining that much damage from the looks of it.
I get Cyclone is the best AoE but has a long CD
Apparently Deeds of Valor is really Strong only at lv 5
Sell me on Double Pay and Mordschlag
what? movement speed is really important for PVP, while Doppel doesn’t add much. Doppel is good for PVE mobs clear with cyclone.
Double pay Earn use it when enemies are low, and you get double loot drops and double exp, every 55 seconds or so that is not bad, assuming you remember to use it ofc. As far as Mordschlag goes since you can only spend 15 points, 5 on cyclone is a go, and id suggest 5 in Deeds of Valor as well. But for the last 5 points I would say you can put them however you would like to be honest, 1 or 2 points in Mordschlag would be a damage boost from the looks of it. The skill has a pretty decent looking attack damage at even level 1.
@denis.sinner
Ok double loot drops is fine, but double XP seems pretty pointless if it lasts for only 1 mob. I guess I might go 5/5 Mords if i go down Doppel
okay now you say “it last for only 1 mob” But what if you have 5 enemies at low life, pop double pay earn, then you use lets say Dragon Soar from dragoon. Most likely 4 enemies will die if they are low enough life right? But its your choice weather you do 5/5 mords or mix between mords and double pay. For me I will do 5/5 on cycloine and deeds of valor then do 4/5 1/5 for double pay earn and mords.
@Rick Ok I see your point.
is lv 5 Mords really not that different from lv 1 Mords?
on the PVP side Mords at higher level is more useful but on the PvE side Double Pay Earn is just as useful for double exp and loot. depends on your play style. like rick says its worth getting both but depending on personal preference and game style which you want to have at higher level. as long as your maxing deeds of valor and cyclone its all good as they are the main points both PvE and PvP wise. with cyclone being devastating if you manage to land all your hits on a foe in PvP or on Mobs in PvE and Deed of Valor while certainly risky does give a nice boost
I think people do say mords at 1 is alright because its used more for utility from what iv heard
What kind of Utility does it bring?
level 1 mords vs level 5 mords is basically double the tooltip skill damage. but you would have to sacrifice other skill(s) rank for it, but I am pretty sure you knew that.
It brings a knockdown for one single enemy I am pretty sure.
Whelp you guys sold me on Doppel
I just hope the leaked Lancer Class Circle will be mounted.
Well It is your own choice weather you go doppel or cataphract, I was just telling you about doppel to be honest.
no, not for pvp, not for pve, if u dont have max Trot, dash is faster and u will have a lot of stamina later on with plate gear and hidden quests