Hello, i ve been dueling alot of classes and… is it me or swordsman have 0 chance against wizards? I get perma cc’ed.
what’s your build? if you don’t have cata in your build you probably gonna stand no chance
Swordsman 1, Highlander 1, Barbarian 3, Doppel 2.
Even going for cata, it has no anti cc.
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So, there’s only 1 build able to PvP as a swordsman? that kinda makes no sense.
you don’t even have hop3 or corsair (any rank) or dragoon or shinobi which means you have completely no ranged attacks at all.
/foreverPvE
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PrinceMark, the way u talk u could help me. Tell me one good build as a swordsman instead of the OP one mentioned here: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/sdyn41jd5h/
fatedhour, swordsman are not supposed to be range. If i want a range class i would play Archer lol. Should i give you examples of all mmorpg’s i played? Btw, it just proves what i said.
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That explains the way you talk…
@kanchelskis
Your build is almost the same as mine except im going shinobi for rank 7 as I need the stealth for PvP, still waiting on that stupid mother f*&^ing flower.
Catapract shines because of Trot, hard to aim sleep on something that’s flying around your screen, plus impaler is probably the best, if not only, swordsman cc other than knockdowns/stuns.
Shinobi can start a duel with Katon no jitsu to go stealth and try to get the jump on them with a knockdown/stun.
With your build when duelling a wizard you need to be sprinting at the start of the duel and try to juke the sleep lol, unless they use hangman knot, you cant avoid that one. If you can avoid sleep then you have a chance. Fortunately with your build you have all the knock-downs & stuns you’ll need to completely lock someone out from casting any skills.
- Start sprinting like a madman before the duel starts as they will have sleep ready to cast straight away. If you managed to avoid sleep then continue to the next step, if not then get ready to use your warpstone lol.
- Hit them in the face with lv3 Bash to knock-down (don’t start with helm chopper… as you probably know playing barb it doesn’t have the best hit box and misses things right in front of you that aren’t on the 6 axis of your position).
- Use Crown (just in case you mess up your stun-lock and they get free).
- Now go into your Helm Chopper + Cleave stun combo.
- Bash again before they come out of stun.
- Seism, if seisim stuns then chuck in an auto-attack(dont risk using a skill as this stun is pretty short).
- Helm Chopper + Cleave stun combo again.
- Use your last charge of Bash.
- If they are still not low eg: full CON, then you still have your trusty Wagon Wheel of IMPENDING DOOM! for another knock-down. I don’t have dopple c2 but you can go Zornhau > Wagon Wheel > Zucken.
- If they’re low then CYCLONE!!!
Now just pray that your helm chopper doesn’t miss and your cleave doesn’t freeze you in place for the love of god and boom, easy win. lol j/k its definitely hard to get it all to connect especially for me on 300+ ping. I usually practice on mobs that have higher hp while grinding.
So hopefully you haven’t lost complete faith in your swordsman. Of course the other possibility is to just wait for the kTOS updates for swordsman to get applied here. The latest update fixes the hitbox of Pouncing and makes it attack faster and swordman can resist ailments cast on them while sprinting plus a few other things that I cant think of.
Thank you for your reply, tbh i didnt choose the last rank, i was about to go doppel 2, but just by reading what u say, shinobi must be the real thing. Do you know what more buffs will come out?
About the strategy, that’s what i try to do. The problem is that i cant reach him because of slow, or ice, or stun, or sleep, or wtv they do. Only running doesnt help much, even if i try to do so.
I’m a check shinobi and see if i prefer it or stick with doppel 2. It depends on buffs. They should change some skills of swords class, most of them i dont use coz i got better ones to dmg.
and in the meantime get reck by sub zero shield, kino3 stuff, icewall, and when you reach it you look at the nice block wizz have (full con), this game is broken atm for pvp, nevertheless swordman is the worst class for pvp concent.
Lol, yea there’s still lots of things to worry about of course.
Just need to get all the planets to align and you’ll be all good.
Ain’t no way for u, I’m afraid. If you’re not Corsair or Cata you’re piece of meat in PvP. If you are… then you’re just a bit better, but still not that good in PvP as other classes.
Deal with it.
Btw, seeing ur a barb… can u provide feedback on giant swing in pvp?
Giant Swing doesnt working in pvp.
Like, at all? Lol, what a train wreck.
Like he said, giant swing doesnt work on PvP. Anyway i hope they change some skills, atleast 1 or 2 skills to get out of cc.
It works on pets and fireball but it doesn’t work on summons and players. I still need to test if it works on a transformed druid.
what’s your point? not even Corsair or Cata stand a chance, with my swordy i reck other melee classes and archer too, wizzards are a different story, not even with godly movespeed or a chain will stop them, because the moment you touch them they freeze you to dead, pull you, grab you, throw you and perma stun you until you’re freaking dead, the most funny part isnt the quantity and quality of cc nor the big burst dmg while you can’t move, the sad part is how much tanky they get with over 400 of block.