i’m planning on going for sword 2 and shinobi, but the quest for shinobi seems a pain and I don’t wanna wait for a really long time to get that damn flower
why would u want pelt1?
mainly just for pve purposes for easy agro
then maybe go all the way to pelt3…murmillo has an attribute that improve pelts skills
especially if you’re only thinking pve and not pvp
what if i want abit of good balance between pvp and pve?
If you’re bent on taking hop3 for finestra buff then maybe you can take rodel 1 or 2 for shield bash since murm gives a nice attribute. Taking rodel 1 or 2 is a waste imo since rodel 3 gives a strike debuff and shooting star.
I went sw1 pelt1 hop1 rodel3 shin murm amd it does suprisingly well on pve and pvp
You could go Hop2 Rodel3 for a good mix of Pierce and Strike attacks. Spear Lunge + Synchro is really good both in PVE and PVP. Long Stride comes very handy as well especially against Clerics’ Satefy Zone.
That will be a lot of skills though so check first if you can handle that kind of rotation (imagine how the skills would look on your skill bars). Hop and Murm skills alone took me awhile to get used to.
Yeah i gave up on the flower too, but im not making a weaker build until i get it, i just quit the game for now lol. Damage-wise i believe there is no way of making a good damage build without shinobi’s burst potential.
But if u want a popular mostly tank build u can go SW - Pelt3 - Hop3 - Murmillo, u have ridiculous block and some synergies with murmillo attributes.
This seems to be a primarily hop3 thread so I’ll ask here. I wanna make a pokemaster (specializing in [stabbing]). Since evasion pretty much sucks I’ll naturally need to time it with [pain barrier]. Given the nature of [stabbing] I’ll be choosing [concentrate] instead of [gung ho]. I’m basically “forced” into sword3-hop3-x-x (leaning heavily into lancer).
My only extensive experience with swordsmen is sword3 so I would appreciate any critique.
capatac for riding
shino for dex
and … for you 
Could go Corsair for PVP. 
Hook + Stride (if target is near wall)
Hook + Joust
Cata for more CC and block pen passive on 2h spears.
Dragoon for a few more skills in your rotation and Gae Bulg burst. Big game hunter attribute is a bonus.
Doppel’s Cyclone (dismounts you) is very good w/ Restrain and Concentrate in both PVP and PVE situations. DoV is a bonus.
Shinobi for some unorthodox plays (all skills dismount you).
Cata or Corsair for me for PVP. Doppel or Shino for PVE.
I can’t expect this to pvp, not without max [trot] or [rush] (dopp might be good for [cyclone]. I could drop hop3 to hop1 since [stabbing] only gains damage. That move gives me cat3, something like sword3-hop1-cat3-lan1. I could drop sword3 all together for sword2? hop2 or pelt-hop2 so I at least still have [spear lunge].
Sw1>pelt1>hp3>sw2>corsair1>Murm
Is it feasible to char full pvp?
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can I go SW3-Pelt3-Hop1-Murm? or Sw2-Pelt3-Hop2-Murm? The reason for SW2/3 is for PB.
is this build feasible? this is purely pve btw