Hello Saviors,
Kind of lost the way to make a support build for Cleric here, may anyone kindly help to share experience and thoughts on making the right choice?
What do you guys really need on party in high lvl dungeon and PVP ?
Seems like Plague Doctor got a lot of voice right now, but well honestly i am totally lost because lack of knowledge …
Really appreciate the help from fellow Saviors 
For full support I personally favor Cleric > Cleric > Diev > Paladin C3. Barrier + Safety Zone can nullify all damage and Restoration can boost your lvl 10 Heal. For times when your solo, conversion works great - you can make your own party of monsters. 
Cleric2/Priest3 should be your base. You get lv10 Heal, SZ attribute, Resurrect, Revive, Mass Heal lv10, and Stoneskin. All great for both PvP and PvE.
After that you can choose w/e you want.
Personally I will say Priest3 is a must, same that Plague Doctor at Rank7, after that Cleric2 and Chaplain are good options, Oracle could work too.
Sounds like you want plague doctor at least. The condition removal/prevention and healing shines in pvp.
Aside of that:
Paladin(3)s are good support in pve, but perform horribly in pvp. (difficulty hitting enemies and barrier doesn’t work in pvp atm)
Dievdirbiai are good for support in both pvp and pve, along with decent dmg. But their totems are stationary which isn’t to everyone’s liking.
Chaplains are also good, and offer solid healing/defenses in pvp. But is unlikely to deal dmg there since auto attacks are easy to avoid.
I’d steer away from the cleric2/priest3 builds that aren’t chaplains though, they just don’t compete with better fleshed out cleric builds.
(and are incredibly annoying to lvl)
Stone Skin is one of the ultimate support skills in PvP, and pretty damn good for PvE. Also with the nerf to Mass Heal, having it a high level is pretty important.
I still stand by that if OP wants to play a FULL support good in all areas of the game, to pick up Priest3 as a priority.
Now if OP wants to be a hybrid support/dmg dealer or play PvE exclusively (in which case I’d seriously make a recommendation for Paladin3), that’s a different story.
Agree with PD. IMC just gave them way too many tools to not even think about not picking them at rank7.
@Kuya_Rx
Thanks for your thoughts, yeah in some guides there are people talking about how they hunt with paladin … 
kind of confuse because of what needs of swordman anyway lol
@Divini
I get both heal to max then, Stoneskin, yeah from what i read it should be a great skill to have but after that should we proceed to krivis or do you have another idea?
@LirashMjorl
They at Crimson Knights call you Senpai if i am not mistaken lol, it must be because you are pro sort of stuff then, Priest3 and PD, what do you think of any other classes to fill the gaps before we got to PD ? A lot of people also said that Cleric2, Krivis for their daino, i see in some video about Oracle too … 
@Wurmheart
Yeah Plague Doctor is kind of favorite in korea now i think, a lot of people give their voice for it, for pvp and pve purpose … OO i see, it is really difficult to lvling Cleric2 > Priest3 ? because of lack of party or can’t solo hunt i guess ?
@Divini
Yeah i kind of getting your point there, Stone Skin is one of the best skill for Cleric tree i think … And i agree that Priest is kind of mandatory to get Support build Cleric …
What kind of Cleric do you guys love for partying in any lvl or high lvl dungeon ?
Thanks a lot for read and replying your thoughts here, i can get a lot of knowledge from you guys, really appreciate it all …
Nah, they are nice, probably one of the best guilds that I have met but they call me senpai for a different reason. Even that, I will sugest something like Cleric>Priest3 as base, after that you have several good options:
Chaplain will make your life as healer eassier.
Cleric2 will give you an amazing atribute for SZ and Heal 10 is great.
Oracle provides Arcane Energy, Prophecy and Counter Spell (I don’t really like CS but it not so bad if you are careful).
Pardoner used to be one of my favorites since Indulgencia allows you to remove stats lvl2 and Increase Magic Defense works really fine with SPR builds (any good priest is builded with SPR/INT/CON), but Plague Doctor can prevent/remove stats lvl2 so it won’t be so good as this point.
Dievdirby is good, but I don’t really like if you go just for 1 circle, you should take 2 circles.
I don’t really like Krivis, but it is a personal taste, it is a great class and Daino can help you to keep all those buffs up and Zalciai and Aukuras provide nice buffs (read atributes).
I will probably go for something like Cleric2>Priest3>Chaplain>Plague Doctor or Cleric>Priest3>Chaplain>Oracle>Plague Doctor (Yeah, I love Chaplain and the costume is really cool). The issue here is that it is totally support, if your team die in pvp you won’t be able to fight by your self, but I build clerics to heal and wizards to kill, no other way. Now, there are some offensive healers that works fine, but that is not my style so I am not really sure how to build them properly.
Edit:
P.S. Level up as Cleric>Priest3 is not hard at all, it is a bit slow but eassier than peltasta3 since your buffs will give you a nice damage with each basic attack, also if you take Chaplain you will have a nice multi hit in each basic
Do you play as a Support Cleric too? 
Yeah, i kind of get your point and absolutely agree with you that Cleric is supposed to be supporting class, in my opinion though, but people also can’t go wrong with Cleric DPS class too 
Anyway we need to play together sometime when iOBT is launch
Hmm, i kind of confuse in stat allocation too, it is just not as simple as DPS class, which is i see a lot archer and wizard investing a lot in just 2 stat … Here we have SPR/INT/CON … but for PVE purpose i think it should go like SPR and INT? Do you have any thoughts here?
What class is your main class senpai?
When I play Cleric I go for full support, I really like the buffer/healer job; but this time I will be aiming for a mage since many friends wants to play as healers (yeah, my friends fight about who heals better, not about who made the bigger dps 
).
About stats, yeah, that is pain in the ass. Even if you are going to do just PVE you need to add CON or you will be one shooted (I learned that in an awful way), so I think a 3/3/1 will be fine until you get 9-10k hp (last beta was cap 200, no idea about how much hp you need after that), for pvp probably you will need more CON. I had a friend who played a healer full CON in last beta, it was not bad and he had around 14k hp (plate armor) at lvl 130, his heal was a bit low (not too low) but he build cleric>priest2>paladin (regret paladin all the time) and he was able to keep the party alive, but we had a Sadhu helping with heals from time to time.
Chaplain gives you more support and even gives yourself a dps option. It’s usually the main choice for many since you already have Priest3.
Other options are Pardoner2 for $$$ making, Oracle2 for that future Oracle3, Druid2 for that additional invulnerability+damage, Pardoner/PD for the Incinerate combo, and PD in general for that healing factor/status invulnerability.
Don’t get Krivis if the only thing you want is Daino. It’s not worth it. #1: Buff Slots were expanded by +2 and #2: For those situations where you do need it, you can just buy Daino scrolls off Pardoners in the AH for cheap. I would much rather spend that rank6 or rank7 circle in a functional class than get Krivis just for Daino.
Bad advice alert: Both @LirashMjorl and @Divini are at it again.
They are too obsessed with the notion of how a healer ought to be in their mind (full support) to consider how it is designed in this game.
And yes full support can work to some extent currently, but i’ll expand on the draw backs:
Field bosses give cubes based on who dealt dmg, not enough dmg is no chance at a drop. Though this may now be party based, going full support still lowers this chance.
There’s a 5 man party limit, and full support wizards are a very good and well liked option. (though they tend to improve dmg a bit at least) Having 2 out of 5 on a team with no dmg, or even 3 if you have a pure tank isn’t a wise option.
Random party finders lob you in a random party for what was around a 200% exp bonus for your daily dungeons. Highly recommend, and ofc it helps a lot if you bring both dps and healing to level quicker.
We haven’t even seen end game content yet, it could be quite easy. But if it’s difficult and has timers or high dmg mobs then poof full support is not what you want to bring there. (earth tower is kind of mid game tbh)
Healing is simply not as effective as damage prevention is. Earth tower mobs can easily kill off a 60k char in 2 seconds. Your mass heal and revive while nice won’t be enough during such difficult content.
Full support just typically isn’t that good in comparison to other options. Even some pure dmg cleric builds like a cleric2/diev3/druid2 can negate tons of damage.
Some other tidbits;
Oracle is junk. Only counterspell/prophecy are of some use and counterspell can easily backfire as it also counters player spells. Prophecy is outperformed by plague doctor’s bloodletting anyway.
you need cleric2 if you want to keep a party alive. cleric1/priest3 won’t cut it after the healing nerfs.
I went over stats and so much more in my guide thread, but basically clerics are quite versatile and it depends a lot on the build considering some skills scale with spr as well.
I nor Divini know the current pardoner skill compatibility list, said info hasn’t been updated for almost 2 months now and is likely outdated. Ask for a updated pardoner list prior to trying to make profit. (or you might run the wrong class combo)
Oracle2 is especially not worth it. 600s cd on death sentence…
Druid2/priest3 is a horrible combination, priest excels as str/dex while druid2 is int based. Sterea trofh is nice, but not worth ditching chaplain over.
Look i get that they try to help, but for that to work you need to ensure your advice is helpful.
Something which they entirely ignore.
So you’re going to be a mage then … And what’s wrong with your friends lol, usually people are avoiding cleric based class
I am considering to become Cleric > Priest3 > Chaplain > Cleric2 > Plague Doctor
Do you think it is alright ?
Thanks a lot for the help senpai …
Yeah i kind of getting your point for not taking Krivis right now, it’s kind of wasting a rank …
Do you think this is a correct way to Cleric support?
Cleric > Priest3 > Chaplain > Cleric2 > Plague Doctor
I kind of getting your point there, a lot of people also said that this game need us to have a damage even we are cleric based type class considering the dungeon that we are going to face … Divini and LirashMjorl have got their point also and i am sure they understand the situation and try to provide best thoughts and experience that they have got previously
And yes it is quite confusing, because of this is not kind of standard mmorpg i think (because of this is kind of unique in choosing classes)
Seems like you love the cleric class a lot …
Do you have any suggestion on what i should build?
Do you think this build maybe might work out?
Cleric > Priest3 > Chaplain > Cleric2 > Plague Doctor
You guys help me A LOT … Thanks, and i hope we get to play together soon enough 
That’s a standard chaplain build, it works fine.
Though for pvp it will struggle to land it’s auto attacks against enemies. But defensively it’s really nice.
Statwise it’s quite nice in terms of con/int/spr.
Con makes you tanky as hell, but lowers dmg and less powerful buffs.
Spr is very effective due to the high block stone skin will give and has nice dmg, but has lower max health and is not that good vs all magic teams.
Int deals the most dmg and heals for the most, but also has low max health and low block.
Or a mix of the 3 also works.
Otherwise you could go for a cleric2/dievdirby3/Druid/Plague Doctor.
Which is best as a int build, and thus has good dmg and druid offers cc for a change. Also is largely stationary.
Others aren’t as good in pvp or don’t have plague doctor/condition removal though. So i think those are your best options.
Just because you don’t like full support build doesn’t mean they are bad builds and btw, with cleric2>priest3> I never lost a box and I had a swordman>peltasta3>squire in party all time. Now if you are watching the fight all time and doing nothing except heal maybe you could lost the box, but I was always hitting when I was not healing, auto attacks can be pretty OP if you are properly builded.
I agree in the part that we haven’t see the end content yet, but neither the last classes, so think that full support classes can’t work is missconeption, specially when any cleric2>priest3 can negate damage pretty well with SZ, Fade, SS, Revive, Mosntrance (highky enhance of dex for dex builds which mean a huge bonus on evasion). Those bonus looks better for me that Statue of Goddess Ausrine with a 90 cd, without metion that you need to stop attacking to recive the protection (yeah, your party members too); Sterea Trofh looks great as protection skill, but you will have to quit to Plague Doctor to get it and I don’t think it worth specially since you will lost all that utility and Healing Factor which is one the best Healing over Time in game right now.
Pretty insane insights there … 
This should be working then … Thanks a lot senpai …
Yeah and it is the same build that LirashMjorl talk me to build into, and i am going to make that one i guess
GO Plague Doctor GO lol
Thanks a lot Wurm
I hope that all of us can meet in the game at some point …
And btw anything else that i need to put my concern guys ? 
It has nothing to do with my preferences, you just refuse to look objectively at what cleric can offer. That’s the issue here.
Earth tower rips priest3’s to shreds, and if you bothered to do your research you’d know that.
Dievdirby3 relies on world carve for aoe silence and ausrine’s invuln. Though i agree the running around part can be annoying. But the cd’s aren’t a issue when teamed up with a chronomancer. And even then dievdirby can nullify more damage then priest3 even without a chrono. (42s aoe silence,18-30s invuln 92/80s cd’s +20s cd reduction statues. )
I do agree that druid2 is in a bad rank position, but it’s hardly useless.
-Safety zone won’t last vs tons of mobs. ET has 150 per floor, often 20 at once.
-Fade won’t protect your tank, and every cleric builds gets it anyway.
-revive is good, but only prevents one death a party member every 2 minutes.
-Monstrance only works on dex builds, and again not vs magic.
-Stone skin is good, but has a 25s downtime without chaplain and doesn’t work vs magic either.
You also know nothing about my preferences which makes it even more hilarious. (hint: Idge, reboldeux soldier & valeria, still tried to lvl a effective raid team though.)
Ow and just to inform you, the argument isn’t: “full support clerics can’t work”.
The argument is: “Full support clerics are not as good as a all-round clerics, and we simply don’t know if full support is going to cut it in end game content. And it has several downsides.”.
Anyone who recommends it solely on what we’ve seen so far is a charlatan.
tl/dr: pay some attention and stop projecting your flaws onto others when you cannot even debate 1/10th of the argument.
First at all learn to read, I never said that offensive clerics are bad, I said that are not my style so I don’t know how to build them, secondly the one projecting it is you, I never said that he shouldn’t add Dievdirby, I just said that if he is thinking to add Dievdirby he should at least add rank 2 and suggest the builds that I like, I never force any one to take them, it is completly up to you and if they fit with your game style or not.
We are not talking about team composition so I am going to ignore the chronomancer part.
Now let’s talk about rotations too, SZ prevent 42 hits at lvl 10 (Divine Might + atribute), then you have SS with block rate 800 at least (400 + SPR (base will be 100 at least, other way your SPR is too low x 4), you can add Heal 10 and Mass Heal 10, Revive and Healing Factor to that formula to avoid people to die. And in the worst case you have ressurection.
Now if we are talking about DPS race I don’t know how to dance around a statue will help you to do more DPS in less time. Or do you really think that Carve Owl do more DPS that 4 people using skills? Let’s say 3, we have a full tank with no damage to make it fair. Also you will say Cast Reduction will allow them spam more skills, a good rotation never goes in cd, yeah they will be able to spam they strong skills more often but I am not sure if additional damage from buff will be better or lower than spam more skills (we should test that).
The build Cleric2>Diev3>Druid2 is a nice build, it can work as support/damage dealer, I would like to have some one with this build in party but not as main healer. You have 1 healing skill, almost spameable thanks to cd reduction but as you said it was nerfed, 3 skills to prevent damage, 2 allow your party to do damage while other one make them dance, but you are forcing your party to stay together all time which is dangerous when bosses use skills that can’t be prevented and that build probably won’t work in pvp (diversity) since again you are placing all your team together, what if Cryomancer3 use snow ball over your team? (Snow Ball damage can’t be prevented) What if an Oracle use CS and cancel all your magic circles? What if he is Oracle 2 and he cast Death Sentence over you, how are you going to dispell it? And there are many skills like that in game.
Finally I am gonna leave you this http://m.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4185&l=9360 maybe you can go and educate youself a bit before bash other people just because they don’t share you conception about how to build a class. But your build is not bad, it is just a different type of cleric.
Just build what you want according to your own play style. What works for one person may not work for another. I don’t think you can go very wrong no matter what you pick unless you’re trying to make it intentionally bad. Worst case you have to reroll.
Frankly no one really knows right now unless you play ktos anyways, since most people are just making educated guesses. So don’t worry if it works exactly perfectly and just do what’s fun. Everyone’s build is going to be messed up when they add in more ranks anyways.