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Support Priest + Oracle

So, I’m currently messing around possible support brews and decided to test up [SPR] Cleric 2 / Priest 3 / Oracle 3 / Taoist, but I’m not quite sure if it would work up.
I’m having some doubts about the point allocation around Counter Spell vs. Arcane Energy and Death Sentence vs. Twist of Fate.

Bear in mind I’m still at rank 6, so I don’t get to check the high oracle stuff. ;T
All I could notice is that Resetting’s CD of 150s is a pain in the ass and that I don’t really know how to properly use clairvoyance, since it’s almost useless all the time.

I’m not even sure I wan’t to go full oracle, to be honest. I’m choosing this path because I appreciate casting my own blessings, didn’t really like playing as miko and don’t want to go PD because my playmate is building into it already. :tired:

Thanks in advance :D~

Oracles are, unfortunately, quite bad in PvM at the moment. You can build one for PvP, but for PvM their support skills and “utility” skills (such as Forecast) are very lackluster.

Arcane Energy is “okay” as a support buff, but unecessary in most cases. One of the few builds that actually benefit off Arcane Energy a lot is Blind Faith Zealot, but remember Arcane Energy can still be scrolled and sold as lv 10 buff.

Change is still very buggy. Drops sometimes depend on new changed mob, sometimes on old mob before change. Getting silver jackpot mob is nowhere near that great nowadays since making money is quite easy by doing dg runs.

Forecast is a really fun skill, but not really helpful. It’s still hard to dodge attacks even seeing their AoE and in most cases it’s not like it matters anyways. Biggest advantage of this skill is the +100 evasion it gives. It’s nice to have, but you don’t really need 3 oracle circles for it.

Counterspell is okay but also unecessary in PvM. I also dislike the 10 sec duration, I feel like is too short. I preferred the 30 sec duration with longer cd version since I could rely on it for a whole boss fight.

Resetting has too much cooldown and it’s still kinda “eh” to use. It doesn’t increase mob’s chance to drop anything, just rerolls it. So it’s only used on mobs that are somewhat hard to find around (i.e. galoks, manahas mobs, etc). In 99% of cases you’re not going to wait on skill’s cooldown, tho.

New Death Sentence isn’t working on bosses. Kind of a useless skill atm since it only affects at most 5 mobs. Not like you really need to kill 5 mobs any faster than the remaining 10+ of the mob group.

Foretell is worse than it was before. Immunity is 100% now but only applies while you’re moving inside the moving circle. Honestly I’d prefer the old Foretell with just the new attribute.

Prophecy also been nerfed. Having only 25 sec duration, you need to be recasting it all the time which makes it super bothersome to use. Especially in PvM where 90% of mobs don’t actually threat your life with any status effects (except maybe Elite mobs).

Twist of Fate has damage cap of 1.5kk damage. Won’t help much on really high hp bosses (such as new Boss inside Raid). On other < 1.5kk hp bosses, it’s not like you really need Twist of Fate (dps classes kill those bosses so fast now).

Oracles were already bad, and IMC made them even worse with the new rebalance IMO. Remember the whole game content revolves around dealing damage, being a full support character goes against about every PvM content (killing mobs fast in Challenge Mode, ET floors that needs to kill mobs fast, etc). Cleric 2 with Heal lv 10 already supplies everything you need for survivability in PvM.

If you want to be a full support but still be useful, Oracle 3 probably isn’t the right choice for PvE.
You talked about Miko and PD, but what about Paladin ? You could be Cleric 2 Priest 3 Paladin 3 Taoist. You’d be more of a support Paladin than a DPS one, but you’d have all the good supports and still be able to be truly useful to the party.
You could also be Diev 3, which brings great utility/support, and now the Owls even scale with your SPR (actually, I don’t think we have this patch yet, but it’ll come~).

I have a cleric 2 dievdirbys 3 druid 3 miko that I use for damage, but druid werewolf now makes my fps drop to 0 and freeze and dc xD.
You can half afk and support or play full dps either way.

Forecast is amazing tbh.

5min buff of +100 evasion and 5% chance to nullify any dmg taken is quite nice.
Though it’s main effect rarely works well…

Doesn’t boost additional or bonus dmg and acts as an additive multiplier with damage boosts to boot. (likely considered tier1)

So much wrong with that skill’s design, including how it’s self dmg bypasses any dmg reductions on your side.

Agreed with the rest though, and they had the gall to call these buffs?

Thank you everyone for your time and awesome answers ^^

I guess Oracle isn’t the way to go then, haha.

I though about going into paladin, but all pala builds I could find are full STR, so I thought it would be kinda awkward to be a paladin full SPR. I checked tos.neet and found out that Barrier has SPR scaling, which I guess is good.

How about this distribution of [SPR] Cleric 2 / Priest 3 / Paladin 3 / Taoist?

Since they usually go for damages with Inquisitor they go STR, yup. But they can also go other stats if you don’t want to focus on the damages side.

Since you’re going for full support, it’s good~

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