Next beta seems like it’s going to be a stress test on the server. they will probably determine the full release date depending on how the servers handle this next beta. What do you guys think ? from the first closed beta it seems like all the game needs is a little re-touching and the rest can be put into future patches right ?
Most probable they have a lot of objectives 
Because will be a “world release” there are additional problems to solve: like translations, servers, technical/financiar problems, GMs, tech./ingame support, balance classes/skills etc.
But overall, I think/hope, they do all possible to start at least OBT as soon as possible.
I’m pretty sure GM, support and tech etc… are all set otherwise they wouldn’t be able to keep track of the posts in these site. And I remember it’s been quite some time since they posted their job offer for translations and GMs etc… on their main site.
Hopefully all that’s left is a bit of tweaking to the system after the 2nd iCBT
They will also need to add in their cash shop. That is almost as important as the game itself.
I dont think the cash shop is too much work, deppending how much stuff they plan to have at launch, and usually theres different teams working on development and market related stuff
I dont think they’re that close to releasing, they don’t even have a guild system in the game yet (or cash shop) and that’s going to have to be tested.
My guess is if that’s not introduced sometime during this month that there will probably be another beta after this. They could also do it during an OBT though if they’re adding such a big thing during OBT I hope they’d do a wipe before release. Seems most MMOs in recent history treat OBT as launch by not wiping anything.
Sometime early next year for release seems reasonable to me at the current rate.
Like many other games ToS can always add in guild system later. Its a way to let the game run for bugs while they test the suitability of guild elements.
They already announced a while back that a guild system would be in for launch.
Guild wars too? 
Oh actually I just looked at another post and they said guilds wont be in CBT. Not sure if they were referring to the first CBT or all the CBTs. http://blog.treeofsavior.com/en/?p=115
Guild wars are not planned for release at all but they were looking into what to do for that sort of scale of pvp post release. It’d be nice to get updates on that sort of stuff 
I can see some references to guilds and guild quests/missions in the IPF data files, not too much to go off though.
Yeap. All we can really do now is hope and dream about it 
Guild wars wont be out for a long time in this game. since there’s going to be alot of balance issues. and Kim announced to an interview that they want to release the game on all servers at the same time on early or mid 2016. but of course that is still subject to change.
Dont need that much balance for mass pvp, as long as some class/move isn’t completely game breaking or overwhelming with no possible counter then you can take your time tweaking values.
Reasonable imbalance makes larger scale pvp fun.
this game won’t be based on mass pvp anytime soon it’s going to be focused on 3 v 3 - 6v6 arena type battle
There is still quite awhile to go.
They plan to release another 150 levels worth of content, and at least 8 more classes by OBT.
Templar the class that makes guilds is rank 8 and they have stated in Q&As those will be available at the Open Beta point.
I hope there will be an open arena with no restrictions and no time to defeat players. I like to go to pvp to take some rest and see players testing their skills on others. 
Yeah I’m aware, that’s why I said CBT and not OBT but maybe that’ll answer the question for others.
I’m still surprised at how there is already a iCBT, considering Korea are still in CBT also.
Just happy it’s moving along swimmingly!
