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Stop making this game Pay2Win

Yea but Nexon is a publisher on ONE server not all of them so while IMC couldn’t force them to remove that without some kind of stipulation in contract nexon cant force IMC to do ■■■■ to their other servers especially if it would make them lose their player base.

I don’t see where IMC is forced to do the same, if Nexon decided to adopt that business model its their own problem to deal with the aftermath, as i stated before, its business, if IMC want to earn some real money they have to open well their eyes to our community, what i mean is, we are tired of Asian games with the P2W mentality, and not only that, also the publishers that adopted that mentality as well, i see lots of potential on this game, PoE is a good example, besides the cosmetics, they got account utilities like stash tabs, ToS also could go on that way, as they stated on that interview, and i do agree on going with that, the new skins and size of lodges should be sold as CS utilities, also, color packs, hair packs or whatever they can come up to, as the goodies like the one steparu posted on his site, i’m totally in for that kind of business.

If that is the case i don’t see any harm on it.

The case is not that people shouldn’t confront before happen, the problem is, many don’t even make an effort to use the search function, and start to make lots of the same kind of post as this one and i’m not saying people shouldn’t voice their opinion, i’m not God and even if i was everyone have free will to do so, but lets try to keep this place clean, there is lots of threads about this same conversation, why not condensate all in one and avoid spam on the forum? I already discussed about this on other thread about other problem, we don’t have mods, the GM/Staff barely come here to answer or give info and don’t do any clean up on the forums.

In the end, i will only say something when IMC come out and say they will do P2W or add elements of it, people are freaking out about something that is happening there and so far have nothing to do with us here.

This is why i said the following on other post, its Nexon KR and IMC contract, whatever Nexon want IMC will have to comply as long as it don’t cause problems to IMC and their reputation. I don’t care and i don’t give a penny about what Nexon KR will do to the game there, what i’m looking at is at our version here so i won’t freak out about info that came from KR.

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Yea but Nexon is a publisher on ONE server not all of them so while IMC couldn’t force them to remove that without some kind of stipulation in contract nexon cant force IMC to do ■■■■ to their other servers especially if it would make them lose their player base.
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On a side note, if Nexon KR ever dictated to go on P2W i would guess that IMC would cancel the contract find other publisher or do the thing themselves instead of lose bigger community (international) and lose more money.


I can’t say it would be like that i’m not an Oracle (despite the fact i might try one next CBT), but as one that ran business once i look around and not only ahead of me.

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hey guys! if you want more ToS despair, research IMC first MMORPG,

We all know about GE, i don’t know who was taking care of it on Korea, but in here i played when it was under GamersFirst or R2, it was a long time ago i don’t remember, i played for a while until i found out that i had to pay real money to be able to get some skills or something like that lol, and that grinding killed my mood too.

some questions:

  1. speed potions are untradable? can player without real money have that potions?
  2. any other items from icoin shop are untradable?

The pots made by alchemist i think are tradable, but it work for a couple of seconds not minutes so its a small change for movement speed, its more to reach the quest area faster, more efficient is the chronomancer 2nd circle buff but not everyone will have on in party and even so many want to solo and won’t go chrono just for buff lol.

I think add some extra gems or adding some movement speed awakening would be fine, and make both overwrite each other (the stronger effect will stay over the weaker one) to be fair, that including chrono buff or you will see lots of speedy gonzales around the game.

and what about real-money-shop p2w speed buff?

can player without real money take it from another player?

On our version there’s no such thing, only on Korean, i can’t answer that one for you sorry.

after kOBT started - many panic topics were started on forum. i dont know what to think - pay to win or not pay to win =)).

IMO it is normal to sell everything for real money if all that items are tradable. but i havent play in kOBT and dont know have players a possibility to trade icoin items or not.

Because it’s all coded in the game and its really easy to import it over?

I know they have to make money somehow, but the question here is, what they do on Korea is under IMC/Nexon contract, its nexon moves that will make the korean CS, not IMC, if Nexon want to make a full P2W game there its their own problem, its on their contract, now what i see is, people here think that will be applied to our version, which i doubt it will, and it’s exactly because of that contract between them that our version is different from theirs and we won’t have any of the elements Nexon decide to add in there except the core stuff and our own additions, if any, which won’t go to theirs or may go and some from them may come, it all depend on the contract which only they (IMC and Nexon) know the content.

I didn’t got what you mean actually, and if its what i am thinking right now then i answered on the top quote on this very same post.

Now the game is a character collection game where you need to grind dungeons everyday to have the chance of dropping something good for your character.
It gets tiring after several dungeon runs.

@Topic at least they didn’t fixed the bug that allows paying users to die from monsters and other players.

If you want something easy to play go to ragezone and find a game there for your tastes, or play something like devilian which is freaking boring and have stuff (like enigma boxes) that require CS item to be opened/used.

I expect lots of this game (Int version) just waiting for next test to see what will be implemented/updated and as i said on other thread, if they keep pushing bugs/glitches without fixing them i will stop playing, in all honesty there are some bugs that should had be fixed before the 2nd CBT.

Dude, Granado Espada Dungeons system is basically run to the boss and kill it to get the roulette chest.
Counting that you will have to equip and level all your characters, you get tired out really quickly, and the
events give you junk or temporary cash item as reward.

It’s basically Dungeon, Dungeon and Dungeon all the way.

who fkin btches about something and then doesnt even provide a link to back up what they are talking about? don’t even think of tryin to tell me to go look it up this is your post come more prepared!! This game is def not pay to win but if it was. i’d credit card warrior the ■■■■ outta it. -.- get on my lvl

Man the hell with GE, this is ToS, same company doesn’t mean it will end up like it, and who do ■■■■ generally is the publisher not the dev.

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I don’t think so… Better check out how Tree of Savior will end up then,
beside based on the closed beta, dungeon is kind of mandatory to be done because questing and
grinding gives not much exp.

I still state that the reason is that the exp table is messed up, but who knows, besides, they are rearranging the dungeon levels by the look of it, and other thing, they disabled lots of side quests, i myself found a bunch of npcs that didn’t had any, not from start, not during questing on that map, neither when finishing quests, and they had names, not only named XX Lady or YY Soldier.

Hello, I have been following the forum whenever possible (from the first cbt), and which hands called me then and it always made me think it was just what was to be purchased by cash and the benefits of it … and in my opinion which will cause and is already causing a great disaster (forum for now), is the bonus of extra speed and the sales limit of a normal user, for a premium user.

These two contents will broke the game.

Maybe their lives were rough in Klaipeda and then moved to Orsha.