I really want to avoid reasons to not play this game, but recent news of your monetization plans are making that really difficult. There are other ways to stop gold sellers that don’t require you to ruin the experience of non-premium players.
It is always sad when a good game gets ruined by a developers lack of healthy innovation. Please dont let that be you, IMC. These Pay2Win changes to the game are the embodiment of everything we hated about Nexon. They want to ruin the KR servers? Fine, but don’t let them do that to the international servers as well.
Suggestion:
Put more thought into the trading/market/buyshop issue. Shutting everyone out behind a paywall is not the answer.
REMOVE the movement speed bonus, or at the VERY LEAST change it to “out-of-combat” movement speed.
Adjust the taxes. Going from 10% to 30% is seriously harsh.
If this is about money, there are much healthier ways to go about this. Please. Be better than this.
I want to know right now is why people don’t get that its Nexon idea on Korea (which probably work for them) and ours won’t have that kind of thing as far as i know, unless IMC itself come here and say that they will do a P2W stuff or add that kind of stuff like in Korea.
Those topics are getting annoying and boring with the same content over and over
The damage it would do to the KR server, if it were the only one that was P2W, would be extreme. Korean players would all just opt to play on international servers. If anything, IMC is FORCED to do the same for other servers just so the KR servers don’t end up abandoned. I don’t see them making one server a P2W without balancing the other servers accordingly.
Its already been made clear that the item that gives these bonuses is an ingame item called a “Token” that stays active for 30 days. The Nexon Cafe only buffs the Attribute# to 3 from 2. It is highly unlikely that the ingame item is going to be for KR only.
If its only for KR servers, then they should come out and say so. Otherwise, you would do well to assume its not, and get in front of it. It annoys me when people say you shouldn’t confront something before it becomes an issue. If you don’t want to be a part of voicing that this isn’t okay, then don’t. But don’t waste your time telling other people that they shouldn’t voice their opinions for the betterment of the game. lol
Does not work like that at all. While i agree people would probably not play the KR server that doesn’t force them to do the same on all servers it forces them to remove it. They wouldn’t risk what they have left of their player base that is their income.
But with that being said everything is a ■■■■ show right now and IMC silence is not helping.
The problem is that they cant just remove it if NexonKR doesnt want them to. They gain certain rights over the game as the publisher, particularly marketing decisions. That’s how publishers work, unfortunately. Assuming that this was all a NexonKR decision, IMC’s only choice would be to balance out the other servers, or let the KR server suffer population loss.
Its not a rare thing for a game to be dictated by a publisher. Take Destiny, for instance (Yes, I know they are completely different genres, but that’s irrelevant). A lot of the content from the first 2 DLC were already in the base game before development was finished. It was actually ON the game disc, just locked. That is because Activation did what Activision always does with its games. Hold back content to later sell as DLC to make more money.
Anyway, my point is that Publishers have a lot of say-so when it comes to marketing in a game.
Yea but Nexon is a publisher on ONE server not all of them so while IMC couldn’t force them to remove that without some kind of stipulation in contract nexon cant force IMC to do ■■■■ to their other servers especially if it would make them lose their player base.
I don’t see where IMC is forced to do the same, if Nexon decided to adopt that business model its their own problem to deal with the aftermath, as i stated before, its business, if IMC want to earn some real money they have to open well their eyes to our community, what i mean is, we are tired of Asian games with the P2W mentality, and not only that, also the publishers that adopted that mentality as well, i see lots of potential on this game, PoE is a good example, besides the cosmetics, they got account utilities like stash tabs, ToS also could go on that way, as they stated on that interview, and i do agree on going with that, the new skins and size of lodges should be sold as CS utilities, also, color packs, hair packs or whatever they can come up to, as the goodies like the one steparu posted on his site, i’m totally in for that kind of business.
If that is the case i don’t see any harm on it.
The case is not that people shouldn’t confront before happen, the problem is, many don’t even make an effort to use the search function, and start to make lots of the same kind of post as this one and i’m not saying people shouldn’t voice their opinion, i’m not God and even if i was everyone have free will to do so, but lets try to keep this place clean, there is lots of threads about this same conversation, why not condensate all in one and avoid spam on the forum? I already discussed about this on other thread about other problem, we don’t have mods, the GM/Staff barely come here to answer or give info and don’t do any clean up on the forums.
In the end, i will only say something when IMC come out and say they will do P2W or add elements of it, people are freaking out about something that is happening there and so far have nothing to do with us here.
This is why i said the following on other post, its Nexon KR and IMC contract, whatever Nexon want IMC will have to comply as long as it don’t cause problems to IMC and their reputation. I don’t care and i don’t give a penny about what Nexon KR will do to the game there, what i’m looking at is at our version here so i won’t freak out about info that came from KR.
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Yea but Nexon is a publisher on ONE server not all of them so while IMC couldn’t force them to remove that without some kind of stipulation in contract nexon cant force IMC to do ■■■■ to their other servers especially if it would make them lose their player base.
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On a side note, if Nexon KR ever dictated to go on P2W i would guess that IMC would cancel the contract find other publisher or do the thing themselves instead of lose bigger community (international) and lose more money.
I can’t say it would be like that i’m not an Oracle (despite the fact i might try one next CBT), but as one that ran business once i look around and not only ahead of me.
We all know about GE, i don’t know who was taking care of it on Korea, but in here i played when it was under GamersFirst or R2, it was a long time ago i don’t remember, i played for a while until i found out that i had to pay real money to be able to get some skills or something like that lol, and that grinding killed my mood too.
The pots made by alchemist i think are tradable, but it work for a couple of seconds not minutes so its a small change for movement speed, its more to reach the quest area faster, more efficient is the chronomancer 2nd circle buff but not everyone will have on in party and even so many want to solo and won’t go chrono just for buff lol.
I think add some extra gems or adding some movement speed awakening would be fine, and make both overwrite each other (the stronger effect will stay over the weaker one) to be fair, that including chrono buff or you will see lots of speedy gonzales around the game.
after kOBT started - many panic topics were started on forum. i dont know what to think - pay to win or not pay to win =)).
IMO it is normal to sell everything for real money if all that items are tradable. but i havent play in kOBT and dont know have players a possibility to trade icoin items or not.
I know they have to make money somehow, but the question here is, what they do on Korea is under IMC/Nexon contract, its nexon moves that will make the korean CS, not IMC, if Nexon want to make a full P2W game there its their own problem, its on their contract, now what i see is, people here think that will be applied to our version, which i doubt it will, and it’s exactly because of that contract between them that our version is different from theirs and we won’t have any of the elements Nexon decide to add in there except the core stuff and our own additions, if any, which won’t go to theirs or may go and some from them may come, it all depend on the contract which only they (IMC and Nexon) know the content.
I didn’t got what you mean actually, and if its what i am thinking right now then i answered on the top quote on this very same post.
Now the game is a character collection game where you need to grind dungeons everyday to have the chance of dropping something good for your character.
It gets tiring after several dungeon runs.
@Topic at least they didn’t fixed the bug that allows paying users to die from monsters and other players.
If you want something easy to play go to ragezone and find a game there for your tastes, or play something like devilian which is freaking boring and have stuff (like enigma boxes) that require CS item to be opened/used.
I expect lots of this game (Int version) just waiting for next test to see what will be implemented/updated and as i said on other thread, if they keep pushing bugs/glitches without fixing them i will stop playing, in all honesty there are some bugs that should had be fixed before the 2nd CBT.
Dude, Granado Espada Dungeons system is basically run to the boss and kill it to get the roulette chest.
Counting that you will have to equip and level all your characters, you get tired out really quickly, and the
events give you junk or temporary cash item as reward.
It’s basically Dungeon, Dungeon and Dungeon all the way.
