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Stop being babys that just cry....(RO Players)

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#11

I never played RO. I tried RO a little awhile ago and couldn’t get into it. I tried ToS because I heard it isn’t really a “successor” to RO. Plus, I always expect outdated gameplay to be updated for the times.

Not everyone enjoys outdated gameplay or follows nostalgia. People may find that, over the years, they just grew out of the things they used to enjoy in games.

I played Everquest for 3 years in my youth and would spend an entire day grinding out 1 level sitting in the same spot, watching the same enemy get auto attacked until it died and rinse and repeat or hours just doing a corpse run. Or camping a spawn for a week trying to get my epic quest item piece.

I can’t do that anymore. However my real complaints about the grind in ToS besides:

  • We have a limit to the dungeons we can run per day. So bad RNG + dungeon limit = frustrating.
  • Spawn rate seems bugged or something. They seem to be on a global timer instead of a respawn timer beginning after an enemy or group of enemies has been killed. Channel hopping + bad respawn times = frustrating grinding experience.
  • No real social environment to entertain us while we’re grinding. I come to the forums for entertainment while I’m grinding instead… lol. Might be a social environment at end game when people are forced to party but while you’re leveling up it’s almost non-existent. I understand how RMT take advantage of zone chats and stuff but man… give me back zone chats and put in a proper chat filter.

At least EQ had a heavy social environment to entertain me while I was doing boring repetitive work. I did partner with people to do quests but it was just that - doing quest. No one really talked much we just worked on quests.

So that’s all I’m going to say here. I like ToS for the most part but I am sorta frustrated watching people blindly justify things that are just terrible such as glaring balance flaws etc just because some ancient retro game had all of these issues too.

I went from EQ straight to WoW and didn’t once criticize WoW for not having a lot of the horrific design that EQ had in it. I, instead, took a breath of fresh air and was relieved to see that they weren’t in WoW. And please don’t come at me saying WoW was bad, it was awesome during its vanilla days.

No reason ToS can’t innovate for the times and improve upon the RO experience. People really want to just go from one game to a game that’s exactly the same down to its fundamental game design flaws?

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#12

So you want to have the candy ( dungeons) the whole day LOL, that why they are fun because you dont have it all the time, you want dungeons all the time to just get items and level right now, this game is supouse to be fun and hard but you people just make it boring with that kinda of thoughts.
You people just cry about not having a place or a way to communicate with people, for me is kinda funny that the Koreans players make more partys in group than us.
You could be a bit smarter a find a way to do a social enviroment you dont a need a chat or a house or something like that in ragnarok never existed something like that lol you just sitted in the middle of the capital and talked with people.
Stop being a child guys most of us here are above 20s we dont need ours fathers to come to clean our sh**, solve your problem by yourself.
And Im not saying that TOS is perfect but common people you are crying just because everthing is not easy, i know there is problems with lag,respawns and “Unbalanced jobs” but you can keep crying because no ones talks to you in the game or for not being able to get an item in a day LOL remember guys this is a MMORPG, since when MMORPG has been easy?
Looks like minecraft has done his job in this guys

#13

Yeah, your reply is lacking intelligence. Good day to you sir.

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#15

Sometimes using Google for searching information isnt bad…

And go to get some dictionary my friend but at least intelligence is my languange means the knowdlege to take good decision and is different from being intelligent or smart :c maybe in english means another thing but im kinda sure is the same.

Good day to you and expect you learned something

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#17

Would you be soooooooo gentle to quote where i said RO is better or where i said TOS must be like RO?
Or Maybe i said that here (TOS), you complain so much in game where is easier everything than in RO, and that why the tittle says RO PLAYERS
You must pay attention to what you are reading my friend because you are talking nonesense.
This is not minecraft you wont get a treasure from digging in a cube.

#18

If you have suggestions just send them at the right place! Stop giving free bait in the water! stop losing your time!

And beside I have a very important question since no one know!
Is there any bot on TOS? I can’t fin ANY topic about this!

#19

The one who has to change the game is not IMC is the community.

Whatever people doesnt seem to understand is easier to just complain :slight_smile:

#20

ok technically how you do that?!, you are a member of the community right! NO IMC is involved!

#21

This post made me lol so hard I almost ■■■■ my pants dude its 2016 do you even know the word innovation? I suggest you google it and also please go back to playing RO this is not RO and also from my years of playing RO I never heard of war of empires , I know realm of empires tho please stop it your making yourself look silly but yes I agree that an umbrella for the whiners is a must but then again stop it you’re making fun of yourself rofl but incase you wanna go on prepare for more trolling there are alot of people just waiting to snap the bait at you lolol. K bye., see you later have fun haha.

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#23

Isn’t Tree of Savior the “Soul Successor” of Ragnarok Online? But sadly… Ragnarok is still better.

At least 0.01% drop rate in Ragnarok applies to a lot of rares. How about here? Mithril ore? :laughing:

IMC doesn’t want to release Arena yet ya know why? Coz they know the imbalances. Look at them planning on the Rank 8 instead and more cash items to lure the wallet warriors in.

People like us complain about Tree of Savior because it ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT meet the properties of an MMORPG (Massive Multiplater Online Role Playing Game). Nobody plays the role of other classes coz its SHIIET.

To all you noobs specially the OP. It doesn’t take a “VETERAN” to determine the failures of this game from the ground up. So please stop the crap about people comparing ToS to Ragnarok because MOST PLAYERS say that TREE OF SAVIOR gives them the OLD RAGNAROK FEELING.

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#25

Who needs innovation? Why bother taking an old idea and improving on it to make it better when you can just copy the old idea down to its bugs, flawed game design, exploits and glitches :wink:

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#26

O-okay.

Ｅｖｅｒｙ ｔｉｍｅ ｔｈａｔ ｙｏｕ ｃｏｍｅ ｔｏ ｔｈｅ ｆｏｒｕｍ， ｙｏｕ ｍｕｓｔ ｂｒｉｎｇ ａｎ ｕｍｂｒｅｌｌａ， ｔｈｅｒｅ ｉｓ ｓｏ ｍａｎｙ ｐｅｏｐｌｅ ｃｒｙｉｎｇ ｔｈａｔ ｔｈｉｓ ｌｏｏｋｓ ｌｉｋｅ ａ ｓｔｏｒｍ ｏｆ ｉｔ．．．．
Ｍａｎｙ ｏｆ ｙｏｕ ｃａｌｌ ｙｏｕｒｓｅｌｆ ＲＯ ｖｅｔｅｒａｎｓ ｐｌａｙｅｒｓ？ Ａｒｅ ｙｏｕ ｋｉｄｄｉｎｇ ｍｅ？ Ｄｏ ｙｏｕ ｒｅｍｅｍｂｅｒ ｈｏｗ ｈａｒｄ，ｕｎｂａｌａｎｃｅｄ， ｌｏｗ ｒａｔｅ ｄｒｏｐ ｗａｓ ＲＯ？ Ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ ｌｏｏｋｓ ｌｉｋｅ ｙｏｕ ｈａｖｅ ｆｏｒｇｏｔ ｉｔ ａｎｄ ｊｕｓｔ ｃｏｍｐｌａｉｎ ａｂｏｕｔ ａｎ ｅａｓｙ ｇａｍｅ ｌｉｋｅ ＴＯＳ．
Ｈｏｗ ｍａｎｙ ｏｆ ｙｏｕ ｒｅｍｅｍｂｅｒ ｔｈａｔ ｔｏ ｇｅｔ ａ Ｆ＊＊ｋｉｎｇ ｃａｒｄ ｙｏｕ ｓｈｏｕｌｄ ｓｐｅｎｔ ｈｏｕｒｓ ｅｖｅｎ ｄａｙｓ ｉｆ ｙｏｕ ｗｅｒｅｎｔ ｌｕｃｋｙ， ａｎｄ ｈｅｒｅ ｙｏｕ ｃｒｙ ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ ｙｏｕ ｈａｖｅ ｔｏ ｆａｒｍ ｊｕｓｔ ａ ｗｈｏｌｅ ｄａｙ ａｎｄ ｙｏｕ ｗｉｌｌ ｇｅｔ ｔｈｅ ｉｔｅｍ ｆｏｒ ｓｕｒｅ ＬＯＬ．
Ｈｏｗ ｍａｎｙ ｏｆ ｙｏｕ ｒｅｍｅｍｂｅｒ ｔｈａｔ ｋｉｌｌｉｎｇ ａ ＭＶＰ ｉｎ ＲＯ ｊｕｓｔ ｇａｖｅ ｉｔｅｍｓ ｔｏ ｔｈｅ ｏｎｅ ｗｈｏ ｋｉｌｌｅｄ ｉｔ， ａｎｄ ｙｏｕ ｃｒｙ ｈｅｒｅ ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ ｏｎｌｙ ｆｉｖｅ ｐｅｏｐｌｅｓ ａｎｄ ｔｈｅｙ ｐａｒｔｙ ｇｅｔ ｂｏｘｅｓ ＬＯＬ？？？？？？？
Ｈｏｗ ｍａｎｙ ｏｆ ｙｏｕ ｒｅｍｅｍｂｅｒ ｔｈａｔ ＷＩＺＺＡＲＤ ＣＬＡＳＳ ｗａｓ ｕｓｅｌｅｓｓ ｉｎ ＰＶＰ ｂｕｔ ｏｎｅ ｏｆ ｔｈｅ ｍｏｓｔ ｐｏｗｅｒｆｕｌｌ ｉｎ ＷＯＥ（Ｗａｒ ｏｆ Ｅｍｐｉｒｅｓ） ｂｕｔ Ｉ ｈａｄ ｎｅｖｅｒ ｌｉｓｔｅｎｅｄ ｔｏ ａ ｗｉｚｚａｒｄ ｃｏｍｐｌａｉｎｉｎｇ ａｂｏｕｔ ｆｅｅｌｉｎｇ ｗｅａｋ ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ ｔｈｅｙ ｋｎｅｗ ｗｈａｔ ｗａｓ ｔｈｅｙ ｊｏｂ．
Ｈｏｗ ｍａｎｙ ｏｆ ｙｏｕ ｒｅｍｅｍｂｅｒ ｔｈａｔ ｓｗｏｒｄｍａｎ ｃｌａｓｓ ｗｈａｔ ａｌｍｏｓｔ ｕｓｅｌｅｓｓ ｉｎ ＲＯ ｂｕｔ ｈｅｒｅ ｔｈｅｙ ａｒｅ ｅｖｅｎ ｅｑｕａｌ ｔｏ ｏｔｈｅｒ ｃｌａｓｓ， ｂｕｔ ｙｏｕ ｅｘｐｅｃｔ ｔｈｅｍ ｔｏ ｄｏ ｈａｒｄ ｄａｍａｇｅ ｊａｊａｊａｊａｊ ｗｈｅｒｅ ｈａｖｅ ｙｏｕ ｓｅｅｎ ａ ｓｗｏｒｄｍａｎ ｓｔｒｏｎｇｅｒ ｔｈａｎ ａ ｗｉｚｚａｒｄ， ｙｏｕ ｓｈｏｕｌｄ ｓｔｏｐ ｗａｔｃｈｉｎｇ ＳＡＯ（Ｓｗｏｒｄ Ａｒｔ Ｏｎｌｉｎｅ）．
Ｈｏｗ ｍａｎｙ ｏｆ ｙｏｕ ｒｅｍｅｍｂｅｒ， ｈｏｗ ｈａｒｄ ｗａｓ ｌｅｖｅｌｉｎｇ ｉｎ ＲＯ ｗｉｔｈ ｓｏｍｅ ｃｌａｓｅｓ， ａｎｄ ｙｏｕ ｃｏｍｐｌａｉｎ ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ ｙｏｕ ｈａｖｅ ｄｕｇｅｏｎｓ，ｍｉｓｓｉｏｎｓ ａｎｄ ｅａｓｙ ｗａｙｓ ｔｏ ｄｏ ｐａｒｔｙｓ ＴＨＥＹ ＥＶＥＮ ＳＵＧＧＥＳＴ ＹＯＵ ＰＡＲＴＹＳ ＩＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＳＣＲＥＥＮ， ｂｕｔ ｙｏｕ ｋｅｅｐ ｃｏｍｐｌａｉｎｉｎｇ ａｂｏｕｔ ｂｅｉｎｇ ｄｉｆｆｉｃｕｌｔ ｔｏ ｐｌａｙ ｉｎ ｐａｒｔｙｓ， ＩＦ ＹＯＵ ＡＲＥ ＡＮＴＩＳＯＣＩＡＬ ＡＮＤ ＤＯＮＴ ＡＣＣＥＰＴ ＰＥＯＰＬＥ ＩＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＰＡＲＴＹ ＤＯＮＴ ＥＸＰＥＣＴ ＴＯ ＦＩＮＤ ＰＡＲＴＹＳ ＩＮ ＨＩＧＨＥＲ ＬＥＶＥＬＳ， ｔｈｅｒｅ ｉｓ ａｌｗａｙｓ ｓｏｍｅｏｎｅ ｉｎ ｔｈｅ ｍａｐ ｔｈａｔ ｈａｓ ｎｏ ｐａｒｔｙ ａｎｄ ｙｏｕ ｃｏｕｌｄ ｐａｒｔｙ ｈｉｍ， ｙｏｕ ｊｕｓｔ ｎｅｅｄ ｔｏ ＢＥ ＮＩＣＥ．
Ｈｏｗ ｍａｎｙ ｏｆ ｙｏｕ ｒｅｍｅｍｂｅｒ ｔｈａｔ ＲＯ ｄｉｄｎｔ ｈａｖｅ ａ ｆａｉｒ ｍａｒｋｅｔ ａｎｄ ａｌｍｏｓｔ ａｌｗａｙｓ ｐｅｏｐｌｅ ｔｒｉｅｄ ｔｏ ｓｃａｍ ｙｏｕ？ ａｎｄ ｙｏｕ ｃｒｙ ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ ｙｏｕ ｈａｖｅ ａ ｍａｒｋｅｔ．．．．

Ａｎｄ ｉ ｃｏｕｌｄ ｄｏ ｌｉｋｅ １０ ｐａｇｅｓ ｏｆ ｔｈｉｓ ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ ｔｈｉｓ ｇａｍｅ ＴＯＳ ｉｓ ｔｅｎ ｔｉｍｅｓ ｅａｓｉｅｒ ｔｈａｎ ＲＯ ａｎｄ ｙｏｕ ｋｅｅｐ ｃｏｍｐｌａｉｎｇ ａｂｏｕｔ ｐｒｏｂｌｅｍｓ， ａｂｏｕｔ ｌａｇ （ ＲＯ ａｔ ｆｉｒｓｔ ｗａｓ ｔｅｎ ｔｉｍｅｓ ｗｏｒｓｔ ｉｎ ｌａｇ ｆｏｒ ｍｅ ｂｅｉｎｇ ａ Ｌａｔｉｎａｍｅｒｉｃａ ｐｌａｙｅｒ）， ａｂｏｕｔ ｐｌａｙｉｎｇ ａ ｈａｒｄ ｇａｍｅ， ＭＭＯＲＰＧＳ ａｒｅ ｓｕｐｐｏｕｓｅ ｔｏ ｂｅ ｈａｒｄ ａｒｅ ｎｏｔ ｅａｓｙ， ＭＭＯＲＰＧＳ ａｒｅ ｄｏｎｅ ｆｏｒ ＧＲＩＮＤ ａｎｄ ｉｆ ｙｏｕ ｄｏｎｔ ｌｉｋｅ ＧＲＩＮＤ ｔｈｅｒｅ ｉｓ ａ ｂｉｇ ｄｏｏｒ ｂｙ ｗｅｒｅ ｙｏｕ ｃａｍｅ．
Ｉｔｓ ｔｒｕｅ ｔｈａｔ ｔｈｅ ｇａｍｅ ｉｓ ｎｏｔ ｂａｌａｎｃｅｄ ａｔ ａｌｌ ｂｕｔ ｙｏｕ ｃａｎｔ ｅｘｐｅｃｔ ａｌｌ ｔｈｅ ４ ｃｌａｓｓ ｔｏ ｄｏ ｔｈｅ ｓａｍｅ ｄａｍａｇｅ ｔｈａｔ ｗｏｕｌｄ ｂｅ ｓｔｕｐｉｄ， ｔｈａｔ ｗｈｙ ｅｖｅｒｙ ｃｌａｓｓ ｍｕｓｔ ｂｅ ｓｐｅｃｉａｌ．．．．．， Ｄｉｄ ｙｏｕ ｋｎｏｗ ｔｈａｔ ｓｗｏｒｄｍａｎ ｃａｎ ｄｏ ｍｏｎｅｙ ｆａｓｔｅｒ ｔｈａｎ ａｎｙ ｏｔｈｅｒ ｃｌａｓｓ？ ｏ ｍａｙｂｅ ｙｏｕ ｄｏｎｔ．．．．

Ｓｏ ｐｅｏｐｌｅ， ｉｍ ｎｏｔ ａ ｗｈｉｔｅ ｋｎｉｇｈｔ ｌｉｋｅ ｙｏｕ ｓａｙ ｉｎ ｆｏｒｕｍ ｃｕｚ ｌｉｋｅ ｙｏｕ ｉ ｈａｔｅ ｌａｇ， ｉ ｈａｔｅ ｎｏｔ ｈａｖｉｎｇ ｍｕｃｈ ｐａｔｃｈｅｓ（ＲＯ ｒｅｃｅｉｖｅｄ ａ ｐａｔｃｈ ｌｉｋｅ ｏｎｃｅ ａ ｙｅａｒ ｌｏｌ）， ｂｕｔ ｄｏｎｔ ｃｒｙ ｆｒｏ ｅｖｅｒｙｔｈｉｎｇ ａｎｄ ｅｎｄｕｒｅ ｉｔ ｂｅｉｎｇ ｐａｔｉｅｎｔ．

Ｐｅａｃｅ ａｎｄ ｅｎｊｏｙ ｔｈｅ ｇａｍｅ， ｔｈａｔ ｗｈａｔ ａ ｇａｍｅ ｉｓ ｄｏｎｅ ｆｏｒ

#27

Coz the graphics. And pantsu. Problem?

#28

I’m sure there are other places they can go to observe anime girl pantsu.

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#29

Okay here’s my side on why I stay in this game instead of moving back to Ragnarok.

  1. I have high hopes for this game.

  2. A lot of classes to offer.

  3. Better graphics than Ragnarok. Tired of 2d.

  4. Its my final MMORPG.

I apologize if I compare this game to Ragnarok. Lets say I never compared it to RO and then I said the drop rate / monster respawn / market / trading sucked? When I say classes are imbalanced and some are not even suitable for PVP? When I say stat builds aren’t really that unique in this game since someone can just go pure con and still be fine in grinding / pvp?

Am I wrong if I say those things?

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