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SR3 x SR1 > HACKA - Help please!

Class and Rank Archer
#8

Falconer’s Circling skill reduces AoE Defense Ratio of enemies, it’s almost the same of you stacking A LOT of AoE Attack Ratio and hitting lots of enemies (great for farming and Hacka/Mergen skills, but better to watch some youtube videos for learning how it works).

Now if you want to ditch out the farming idea, the problem lies with Archer 3. It’s not a rank that many classes profit. I can imagine Cannoneer builds (because of Kneeling Shot sinergy), Falconer 3 builds (there’s a popular youtuber with A3-Sc2-Falc3 build doing very well) and Rogue 3 burrow focused builds, being all of them very underground and off meta.

As you are new to Archer patch, I can roughly resume as my PoV:
SR3 for AoE killing and Earth Tower easy setup;
Fletcher 3 + Mergen/Hacka for Bossing;
Scout 3 + Falconer 1 for dungeon farming;
Falconer 3 for support (Circling/Aiming) and field farming (Pre-emptive Strike);
Musketeer and Cannoneer used to shine a lot at PvP (before Missile Hole), now they are still good burst classes (Musk focused on single target and Cannon on AoE).

#9

you want a farming build. nothing in the archer tree is better than that at SR3. now, scout is perfectly viable with SR3. you can speam spread shot when using retreat shot. marching fire for when retreat shot is off cooldown, and you have multishot, concentrated fire and assault shot for the bosses.

you will have a 15 target moving AOE attack + 3 extra targets attacked with spread shot and a 5 target moving AOE attack for when its off cooldown, which will increase your dungeon farming speed by a TON

the real reason why many SR3 go ranger 3 is for steady aim, a 10 second buff, and the duration perfectly matches the duration of retreat shot and steady aim

falconer is honestly underwhelming with a dungeon farmer, and falconer is better by going c3 for aiming. the build is too crowded with falconer in it, if you want to mix it in its better to just go full falconer instead or choose a class that actually benefits from falconer more such as cannoneer

you messed your character up by going archer3, its better to just go archer 3 - scout 2 - falconer 3 like braggi said and copy that korean guy on youtube

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#10

It can be good enough for 240 dungeon farming but pure suicide in 290 xD
I have a “snowflake build” with good items and transcend 6, so I can clear 240 dungeon around 10 minutes for virtov plate and cloth (for all my alts so I don’t need to use team storage anymore) and 300 000+ silvers .

Some who don’t do solmiki don’t need the SR3 so they turned into hackapell (pistol skills in circle 1 and maybe more in circles 2 and 3) so it should be futureproof in rank 9-10.[quote=“Lurii, post:9, topic:349938”]
falconer is honestly underwhelming with a dungeon farmer, and falconer is better by going c3 for aiming
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Actually there is a crazy dude on fedimian with sapper3 falconer 3 with transcend 6 who will be very strong on rank 9 eventually, his speed farming in dungeon 290 is something to witness xD.

#11

@Lurii thanks I got it now! Think I’ll make another char to go SR3 and thin about making that korean build with this char.

Ok got it! But after archer3-scout3-falconer1 is there any other good picks?

Do you have a link to that video? I can’t find it anywhere lol

Is this amount considered good? I have no idea lol

#12

If we really get heavy nerfs on silver dungeons low level, there are still 240 290 but the monsters are clearly sturdier xD
145 or 240 have the same range between 300 000-330 000 I think.
Scouts 3 based farming with low attributes and bad items will need a lot of time for 240 while with random pyro agny linker thauma 2 you get a lot more money with low budget and twice faster effortless…

#13

I didn’t say SR into hacka look bad couz I only think about ET.

I said it is bad couz if u are missing SR3 u will also miss Limacon Spread attribute, which is a much needed attribute MAINLY when u farm stuff alone (while it is pretty useless in meltis party play :stuck_out_tongue: )

#14

SR > Hacka only really lets you do Sprint + Limacon. It’s kinda nice because there’s a hidden (maybe unintended) effect where you don’t use stamina while sprinting if your’e using limacon, and you instead recover stamina as if you were standing still. Useful for running across maps if you one-shot the enemies, but it’s not really worth if you’re going specifically for a farming build.

#15

thanks for the help everyone!

Anyone got a link to the video or maybe some kind of guide to the archer3-scou2-falconer3? Or why it would be good? What does falc3 has to gain from a scout2?

#16

Aiming + flareshot. a poor man’s frost cloud.
Circling attribute for if you go to scout 3. To be honest the archer 3 is the thing that offer the least gain, unless you find multishot lv 15 attractive.

It is circling and aiming the thing that is indeed most attractive when you got a ground skill like flareshot.

#17

ohhh I see it now, thanks. But the reason to go scout2 in this build is only to get more damage with flareshot with this combo? Or does it have another thing I’m not seeing?

Is this a good falconer build or there are better ones in your opinion?

#18

Hm I think there is no right “falconer build” it is more like a “What I want to do with my character”

-Quick edit here-
There is however a wrong falconer build, that is whenever you only take falconer 2, falconer 2 is the worst class out there.

I’m guessing that person will take scout 3 at rank 9 unless something amazing comes out at rank 9 that sways him.

Reason behind going scout 3? split arrow. Split arrow is great with circling. Can be achieved through party play. (Note: is only amazing with falconer 3’s circling, the replicated damage goes once more through modifiers allowing for some nice numbers vs fly units)

Longer flare shot is the only thing you get out of scout 2 (and longer cloacking)

-Edit 2-
That person is indeed waiting for split arrow at rank 9. He said so himself

#19

I see, but there are lot’s of possibilities lol, don’t know what to choose from.

thanks for the info!

Guess I’ll just keep leveling this char and feel what I want to do with it.

Thanks a lot for the help.

#20

farming 145?

nothing more than split shot

sr1 make u run faster at r7 u can keep it at r7 if u lazy

hack1 at r8 make u run faster again

u can just use r6 scout3 farm 145

then leveling it for more damage, move speed when u have time

or u just use other r8 farming it

hop3 can farm 145 too, many choice viabia for r8,

#21

do you know what is th stats of her weapon? my split arrow’s dmg maxed at 55k against flying mob

#22
In this video at 2:52

https://youtu.be/wgY77UIHM5M?t=172

You'll see his weapon

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Oh forgot to show its potential, it is sitting at 7/12
-edit-
Oh also in that video, that’s not split arrow, that’s oblique shot boosted through circling.

#23

stage 8 transcendence… no wonder

#24

Yup. It is so sad that the only way to truly progress is through transcendance. Screw stats, screw skill levels. screw debuff combos, Transcendance is where it is at, anything else is to hit damage cap sooner.

#25

do you understand what is her awakening? something +74?

#26

Sadly I’ve no idea my korean is, non existant.

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#27

weird things is how can her oblique shot’s ricochet get stronger, like 33k to 100k?