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SR3 - A Big Mistake?

Yeah that would be great instead of manually adding all the increases per upgrade on the websites. You want +11 though as (9 to 10) < (11 to 12) < (10 to 11). I find it weird that the upgrades on a lv170 orange pistol > the upgrades on a 315 blue pistol. If you’re really lucky you can go for +16 manamana (as that is the next break point for ups).

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HI Primo, i really know what it feels but SR3 is in a good spot right now (compared to other archer builds)

  1. I rarely see a SR get 1st in bosses but it is possible if you have good equips + trans + attributes. Do note that swordies in the same conditions will probably outshine you.

  2. Yes, for a DPS role you need endgame items. I, personally, don’t go to solmiki(lolo is ok) with my SR and when i go with my support char i avoid parties with archers (except falconer). I feel the archers lack damage output(falconer is an exception as it amplifies the party damage), but this is my opinion, you can find a lot of videos of people climbing with archers…
    Mind that usually a ET party will have 1 chrono + 2 clerics so it lasts 2 slots for you. As most archers are full DPS, your damage need to be high otherwise it will be more optimal to put in your place a DPS with supportive skills

  3. PvP weakness is not a SR only issue, your class choices have nothing to do with it :slight_smile:

Concluding, i cant think of an archer build that can be good at boss and ET and pvp so i dont think you made any mistake, focus on the sotrng points of the build :relieved:

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Could you elaborate as to why SR3 is in a good spot? What is the strong point of SR3? I don’t see where SR3 really excels bec other archer classes are better than SR3 in any scenario.

A2>Qs3>X>Musk is good for bossing due to its high single target dmg.

SapperFalconer is really good for ET bec of circling and broom trap.

Also. I see falconers, scout musk, and mergens excel in PvP.

https://tos.neet.tv/items/304103

below you can set the trans lvl and enchantment lvl of item, the atk value above changes with the trans and ench.

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I never knew neet had this feature. How useful.

Could be better presented, but nonetheless good data to be able to view.

Just play classes that you find fun and enjoy playing.
SR3 is very fun for me, and that’s all that matters.
Check this to see what classes are most popular if you are really so desperate to play a very META build::
https://treeofsavior.com/page/class/ranking.php

Ironic the ar2/r3/sr3 build is ranked at top4 most played classes. So it’s not that bad i guess ? :))
Doppel can deal more dps than a SR only if he invests like 10 time more silver into his char.

SR3 is never a big mistake, it’s the best class to solo content/dungeons/etc, probably best class to farm silver fast at the moment, and a very sexy class also <3

A SR3 is a super mobile aoe dps class, this is the strong point of the class.

Also, i said SR3 is in a good spot, i didnt said SR3 is in the best spot or is the best build for anything.
Of course SR is not the best at bossing or ET, but it can do it decently. It is not like hackapell and cannonner that are uncapable of doing almost anything good.

If you want to talk min-max and meta, i have to say the meta thuth: SR atm is popular for farming (i think it is top4). It is not the best class for ET and bossing. If people have to choose between SR and Falconer for solmiki they will absolutely choose falconer. You will probably lose 1st rank at bosses to doppels and focused builds(like musketeer).

These things make SR a bad class? NO. The fact that there are better builds for different contents doesnt make all other builds bad. Like i said before there are many other classes in the archer tree that besides not exceling in these contents cant do them decently too.

The strongest point of SR is its mobility, in a boss fight a musk will take much more damage, you can evade the boss attacks and do a constant dps most of the time. You are ranged, so doppels will do more damage beucase they take
higher risks being meelee. In ET you are the safest class, you can group mobs, kill and always remain in a safe distance from everything. All classes need a tradeoff, you cannot be aoe + burst + mobile at the same time

For Pvp, i remember only seeing an archer in the rankings one time and it was an appraiser weeks after launching the class. Dont expect to overcome the clerics unless you have a specific build for PvP and excellent mechanics

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Swordmans in comparation archer: More tank, more walk speed, more damage, more debuffs, more aoe, more tenacity against cc, and cheaper
Clerics in comparation archers: More tank, invecibility, heal, more aoe with some clases, more single damage with aoe skills !!!, buffs to party, and cheaper
Wizards in comparation to archers: buffs, debuffs, better aoe, lot of cc, afk farming
Archers in comparation to others: Ey !!! I HAVE MORE EVASION !!! UUUUUUUHHHH OVERPOWERED BITCH !!! YEAAAAAAH my skills have same % of damage than cleric, swordmans, and wizards and they have buffs, and debuffs to double the damage of her skills YEAAAAAAH i’m the best class… and I have no block, my clases use all diferent weapons, I can’t use some skills in my companion ALL ARE ADVENTAGES !!!

it feels like snipers of ro, with the diference that snipers in ro was usefull in pve,

Archers have access to “amazing” crit chance, the other classes don’t. I feel these aren’t enough but I don;t really know what will b enough.

With this crit chance in mind. Which monster card is better for A2R3SR3: Ellaganos or Glass Mole? or Hybrid?

There are some factors to consider.
If you use [limacon] more often I think ella cards would be better.
If you only invest in you pistol (and not your xbow) ella would be better.

change your +13 manamana to +13 aspana revolver

im using +8 manamana with 5* red gem, lvl 59 limacon attribute what i do when going mission and instaced or farming is buy buff aspersio,scra and blessing then hold “c” boom instant 2nd or 1st when doing mission.i only use limacon then auto attack on everything