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I know it’s gonna be hard past 200. I know I will be doing crap damage. No spear classes.
So I wanna help my friend out with a squire 3 from the ground up. I’m already at pelt 1 (rank 2). I was planning on pelt 3 but it “seems” c3 isn’t worth it. All I get are damage skills that don’t really do any damage. Another option was sword 3 pelt 1, but sword 3 is more a pvp build and I’m not really planning to do that with this. Another friend suggested pelt 2 rod 1
why no spear classes? Do you just not like the looks of spears? Most peopel take Rod for slithering, so i don’t see much point in going rod if you’re only taking 1 rank. honestly feels like hoplite is your best bet here. But if you are banking on the fact that rod is so weak it might get buffed soon you can go pelt 2 rod 1 then squire 3…but you know your leveling experience is going to be a$$.
Oh yeah I do know. I’ve taken a priest pardoner to rank 7 with JUST AUTO ATTACK, a lv 40 mace (5 hammer) and [sacrament] [blessing].
No spear because both hoplite and cata are c3 or nothing for me and that competes with squire 3.
So I’m really just left with pelt 3 or rod.
With how the game currently is, Hoplite and Cata will both bring you much more than Pelt3/Rod would, even with the two circles limitation.
Hop2 does give you 100% uptime Finestra, so it’s not like it’s bad, and Thrust exists as a rotation filler (not like you have anywhere better to spend Swordie c1 points on). That’s what I’d recommend personally… otherwise, I’m not sure you’ll be able to keep aggro on you, even with the 10x hate attribute.
Other than that, you could go Pelt2>Cata1 on a dedicated tank build I guess… Squire is the current tank meta, since the HP buff exists… and you get extra HP/eva from pet with Cata, as well as CC and mobility to dodge magic. Pelt2’s decent, lv10 Swashbuckling will handle all of your tanking needs: lv5’s not enough for a dedicated tank build, and lv15’s a waste of points from overkill.
(Think PvM Cleric1 vs Cleric3)
Dedicated tanks aren’t too relevant at this point in the game, but at least you can use the character for ET that way.
EDIT: Pelt3 might be more relevant in ET than Pelt2>Cata, since High Guard sounds actually useful there and you get 3s duration/15s CD silence with Langort. at this point this is just speculation though, and Pelt2>Cata sounds like its general utility as a tank build is higher.
Well I’m not going pelt to be a dedicated tank. Sword 3 is still an option for max [pain barrier]. But if pelt 2 is still a recommendation rank 4 is my only real dilemma.
Pelt2’s only really recommended for dedicated tanking afaik. If you’re not going to be doing that, then Hop2’s prob your best bet.
you are right about cata but hoplite is really good even at c1. Stabbing is relevant at all stages of the game and finestra is…well finestra. Syncro is a skill that scales with your shield so the higher the defense you got on your shield the better. If you want to compare the usefulness vs a rod c1 Hoplite wins any day of the week.
Well I’m not going pelt to be a dedicated tank. Sword 3 is still an
option for max [pain barrier]. But if pelt 2 is still a recommendation
rank 4 is my only real dilemma.
imo if pvp is not your thing i really dont see any reason for going sw3…unless you’re banking on future buff. Sw3 is one of those a$$hole circles that pretty much do nothing unless you pair it with cata. The skillset from sw3 are terrible. It’s only ever good for pvp because no one can outrun a cata 3, which makes restrain decent and max pain barrier extremely good.
In contrast, Hop lvl 1 is so good that all the skills are usable at lvl 200+, especially stabbing. At lvl 5 its damage is only second to Rush and it has a fraction of the sp cost. And finestra bonus block rate is a godsend.