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So whats the new meta DPS build now? Doppel?

what would be the build? Help a newb here :frowning:

Alwas was doppel :smiley: full str build

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Playing meta dps as first character isn’t recommended.
Because after months when you finally reach level 300+ and spend millions on attributes and decent gear, IMC gonna nerf that class.

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Is it still worth to get Highlander 1 in SW-?-Barb3-Doppel3 or maybe better would be to get sw2? Cuz now Critical Attack stat attached to Dex. So there is no point to get Highlander one if u r going full STR, right guys?

i’m in love with my doppel with high c3 ‘-’

What’s your build if you don’t mind me asking

sw1>high3>barb1>doppel3
150 dex rest in STR

I see. Thanks for sharing.

without HL in your build you wont be able to use 2h sword, so how could you dps ?

Barbarians and doppels can use 2h swords aswell.

U know, high3 and high1 are really different in build.

I don`t have problem with that cuz i have 230+ character. :smiley:

Can i know the reason for dex? For concentration buff? I have tried 200 dex and 0 dex invested but ot seems like no difference for the speed of spamming skyliner… so i am not sure what dex is for… hope that you can clarify it. Thanks.

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ppl out there are saying the DEX for atk speed has a cap around 170 / 180 DEX, so i’ve just put a lil for atk speed in my normals AA

Dex now is better for AA and Aspd heavy skill users like SR, Monk, QS.

There are some skills from Highlander that use the aspd but dont require too much because it only speeds up the animation so you only need a bit of dex (something like 70 points invested) and you can invest the rest in STR because GungHo now scales nicely with STR and more patk is more DoV too because all is % from your patk because weapons are like 60% of your damage now.

Only get Concentrate if you wanna do SW3 or maybe 2, if SW1 get GungHo

I have tried 0 dex and 200 dex, and it doesn’t really improve the spamming of skyliner in my test, and I am having sub 30 ping here.

However, I think dex scale nicely with Concentrate because of how the formula works.

statBonus = ([Character STR] × 0.1 + [Character DEX] × 0.2) × [Skill Level]

For Gungho:

value = 10 + (([Skill Level] - 1) × 2) + (([Skill Level] / 5) × (([Character STR] × 0.5) ^ 0.8))

Say you have 200 points in str and 200 points in dex,

SW1 Concentrate gives you:
(20+40)x5 = +300 “additional dmg”

Full 350 str 0 dex SW1 Gungho gives you:
(0.57x(350^0.8)+18) = +80 physical attack

My guess is people add dex to get high amount of burst damage from concentrate (Cleave-bleed-armor break–xxx–skyliner). However concentrate is hit counted… so the choice is yours.

Whats great about it is, it’s swordie’s cheap Blessing, a flat number that ignores damage calculations.
Add up, that some multihit skills only consume 1 Concentrate hit.
Sadly it doesn’t add up to additional damage lines(Sacra/Cafri).

so additional flat damage vs. physical attack from gungho… which one is more appealing…?

Gungho should be better i guess.

Hi, the attribute level of Concentrate and GungHo is directly added after the formula, right?
Do you know how it is calculated the defense decrease of GungHo? It don’t match with tosbase.