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So Kim Hak kyu was not the main developer of TOS until recently?

Just to correct you, it’s pay to boost, not win.

It would be pay to win if it were something everyone could not acquire. It’s not like Blessed Shards are very difficult to get though.

I’m 100% against anything being market-only of course. That would be a disaster.

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What you are talking about isn’t really in ANY games nowadays. The transcendence is as pay to win as you’re gonna get in 2017.

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200k silver is like 15minutes farm though really.

2m silver for 10, so paying to boost gives people 150 minutes headstart boost vs grind players? It’s incredibly small.

You’re gonna need hundreds of shards for lv10 trans, so that is a lot higher than 2m.

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20-60m. Scary.

I’ve sunk 100s of millions into pointless anvil upgrades for the journal rankings. I don’t think it’s a massive issue yet.

I am prepared to get pitchforks out if they do release one that looks v bad though. Don’t get me wrong, not mindlessly defending the practice at all. I just think we should be careful about not scaring new players when it’s not a v bad one. Especially when the player population has increased 25% in the last 2 weeks.

Will grab my pitchfork if something stupid comes out.

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So they did kick someone out. Hopefully not a scapegoat but a weak link. Anyways, I’ve seen games selfdestruct because they’ve put too much manpower into rebalancing while forgetting about content. Hope that doesn’t happen here.

Skyforge. People like you defending it with “pay to progress” at first. Then they eased in the real p2w stuff and anyone who does pay gets put miles ahead of everyone else. In essence when you are ahead of others in an MMO and paid for that advantage it is P2W do not fool yourself. Speaking from the perspective of a dolphin/whale here not some 12 year that can’t afford $10 complaining on a forum.

It is not say Runes of Magic levels p2w but still giving a clear advantage for your money. What is really debatable is helm enchants with rare stats like AoE Ratio which was the absolute start of p2w mechanics.

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You’re talking about a Russian company. Not really relevant to whether it occurs in ToS.

It’s like the silly folks saying “Yeaaah but look Battlefield 1 got stupid premium packs” on the Overwatch forums as if Blizzard will do the same in their game. It’s completely not relevant to talk about different companies and their actions.

Offtopic: Are you going to make a post in any thread that’s not negative Opiuchu? I think I might spit my drink all over the screen the day that occurs.

Like the Asian companies are known to be even better or something. It’s pretty relevant when the p2w is already in this game despite what you just said.

They ever going to have anything positive to post about? Because I think I might have some positive things to say when they stop being cash grabbing money grubbers running this server like a slum lord.

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That view of the differences between companies/regions is incoherent. There are lots of perfectly good asian companies in gaming.

There are lots of positive things to post about. You simply choose to derail anything and everything onto something negative in every single thread you post to.

When nothing you have to say is positive perhaps you should reconsider whether you should even be here playing the game. Go and play a game that you have positive things to say about. Something that doesn’t make you endlessly unhappy.

I don’t see how things from over a year ago are relevant to whether there are positive things to talk about now. You act like absolutely nothing has ever improved and nothing has ever gotten better. I’m not aware of a single positive thing you’ve had to say about any change, ever.

You didn’t answer my question. If you have nothing but negatives to say - why are you still here? Are there any games that you have positive things to say about? Why aren’t you playing those games instead of tos?

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Clearly you don’t see or read.

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Answer the question.

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There is no personal attack there. Discussing the content of his posts, not him personally.

“Your posts are always negative”

vs

“You are negative person.”

The second is a personal attack. The first is not. Content vs personal.

Rather than continue to talk about this in the thread as we’re not contributing, PMing would be more appropriate.

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@hkkim

Since you’re the new boss, can we have a Gunslinger class now?)

Corsair3
Sr3
Musk 2

Pick one

But I want double pistol!

you always have other options like latale, dungeon fighter online, ragnarok for dual pistol classes but i doubt there will be a new gunner class on tos but if i was in imc i would have thought of implenting a dual pistol hidden class for rank 8 that is optimized with s.reiter + mount <3

then pray to mr kim the living god who made wings of vaivora account-shared finally

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