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So IMC why do you keep fixing minor things and none of the big issues?

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#1

I’d like to know why, the spawn rate needs to be fixed (set to icbt2 levels which si what the game is meant to have), team storage needs to stop using potental or trades to xfer items, dungeons need to be fixed so they don’t constantly kick you to server select, BR spam in server chat needs to be stopped too, this could be easly done by adding commonly used words to the filter(to the profanity filter so it blocks it from being sent). trading needs to be changed because its just hampering the game.

Biggest issue for me though is the Team storage, and stopping the BR spam in server chat, though I doubt anything will be done about the annoying fgauiof gfg efbg quebf uwbf qw BR spam in server. I hate having to rebuy gear I already have due to potenal and trade loss for transfering it between my own friggin characters.

I got no problem with BRs playing this game, my issue is the ones that constantly spam server chat like morons constantly. To me they are no diffrent than gold spam bots when they do that.

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#2

You are getting things mixed up.

Spawn rate and team storage are code related issues, the less code or analysis required to solve, the faster it gets fixed. I want to mention that both mentioned are actually FEATURES, that’ll require them to be changed if that’s the case, not ‘fixed’.

As for the brazilian spam, it would require an active GM to hunt down those troublemakers, though as annoying as it may be, they aren’t breaking any rule…

#3

Spawn rate and team storage are really low-complexity code related issues; as easy as changing a dozen of lines in text files server-side and rebooting the server.

Although Team Storage spending potential is something I support. Getting a single character geared up then reusing it on every character ruins the game.

#4

I disagree that it is a low complexity issue because some maps have decent spawn rate, increasing the spawn by percentage overall won’t help the maps that are already deserted. What is +50% when the amount of spawns is 10, for example?

They’d need to take every single map that has spawning issues and increase the AMOUNT of spawns separatedly, not rates.

I also support the potential penalty.

#5

Dude u are always talking of “BR” as a problem, and it is starting to get annoying, if u really needs to keep saying this u probably are playing in orsha and u should transfer to klaipeda, and GO EAT SOME POTATOES

if u cant stand other languages in an INTERNATIONAL server, u should play SINGLEPLAYER GAMES, so u stop derping in forums =)

also, ppl read this, and there are more BR’s than NA players, and there will be even more when f2p release, so u shouldnt piss of ur future grinding party “friends”

#6

Or the BR clowns could start speaking english in shout chat which is usually the expected language on a international server for stuff like server wide chat. I don’t care if its in private or general etc, but spamming it in shout is annoying as hell. So why don’t they respect general etiquite(sp?) in a mainly english speaking mmo? Also I am not american so your potato joke is lost on me. Put it this way, people wouldn’t dislike BRs so much if they would behave and weren’t being annoyences, they got the rep they do because they’ve gotten it for themselves. So they are reaping what they sow. Literally every single time I go to shout chat I see: rhgiu gwrgqirigbi rqgiug biqurbq iugb qouig uiwgb wioub bascally from BR’s constantly, they are the ONLY ones who refuse to use english in a english games server chat, and yes its annoying as hell.

The potental loss on gear thru team storage is stupid, its your own characters, why should you be penalized for wanting to use a item you’ve obtained on one of your other characters? All 3 of my characters need a arde dagger, and I have 0 luck getting it from drops I cannot afford 750-800k a pop. when if team storage was fixed, I’d only need the one, and due to them being in the market much more its price would drop substancially. Which is better for the ecnomy as a whole, There are many items that are too over priced due to the spawn rate being crap. Vubbe fighter blood, normally they supposed to spawn 3 max out at once with each repoping 60s after it was last killed, insted its 5-10 mins between them, and with the low drop rate… yeah. Wouldn’t be a problem if there was some other mob that drops that item but as far as I know there isin’t.

#7

sometimes the person does not speak English and he needs a way to find other people who speak his language, shout is the best way.
I play in Klaipeda and it is extremely rare to see a message in another language

#8

Isn’t this almost exactly the same thread that got removed this morning?

The one where you started ranting how you’re racist and hate Brazilians and how you wanted discriminating features added into game? It had really similar content on the first post and went on like this one where you attack the Brazilian player on your second reply already.

I hope you’ll get banned this time. I bet you got warning for that previous one already :slight_smile:

#9

ICBT2 levels were still garbage for high level zones. They have to go beyond ICBT2 for the Mid/high level zones (165+)
Except for dungeons (like Crystal Mines,Tenet and RM) spawn rates in low level zones are already sufficient.

#10

Hmmm, I’ve noticed that a lot people don’t seem to realise that it’s been two weeks since early access started. Some things can’t be fixed overnight.

We’ve had a bunch of fixes for the issues that are easy to address, but (a) some issues require a lot more work and (b) some issues are simple to fix in theory but could have enormous ramfiications on the game world/game economy, and so must be discussed thoroughly with various teams before any kind of action is taken.

You can’t raise the drop rate of an important item (for example) and not expect the economy to flip overnight, which may affect silver acquisition, which trickles into people’s ability to buy attributes, upgrade gear, travel, etc. etc. altering the very nature of progression in the game.

There can be all sorts of knock-on effects of any one decision, and unlike you IMC is in this for the long haul. If it’s going to damage the game years down the line they need to predict this and steer away from it. Unlike you and me they can’t just throw up their hands when they get bored and walk away.

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#11

It’s convenient to forget the 4-5+ months from CBT huh? Did they fix some things? Sure. But for some very useful trivial suggestions (ability to toggle chat swear word filter?), do you honestly think that would take 4-5 months?

If you ask beta testers I’m sure there are many who would tell you that there are still quite a few bugs brought up in the betas that are still floating around. So no, it’s not just 2 weeks.

#12

Yeah, I won’t deny they could have done more, but I have very, very strong suspicions that it’s all due to funding. You’ve probably noticed how they’ve been more responsive since we’ve started paying for early access compared to during the beta.

You know the old saying: quality, speed, cost – pick two.

#13

Not really 4-5 months. The game didn’t stop being run, it went live in Korea literally the month ICBT2 finished. So they’ve been dealing with post-launch pretty much the whole time (and were still making improvements).
If anything the Itos release might have slowed down their development.

#14

Except I am not racist, its just annoying on Orsha server seeing all the spam all the time thats all. if I could xfer my chars and what I have to Klei I probally would do it. Its a bigger server too isin’t it? I don’t hate anyone, I just dislike all the spam they generate on server chat thats all. I never got a warning for that post or anything either. The forum mods are probally just tired of the issue being brought up is all. I think imam drop it since nothing is going to be done about the spamming they do in portuguses, I’ll just have to get used to it or keep all chat closed since thats all you see in it on Orsha server.

#15

Not to be an a-hole, but dealing with people who don’t understand that this is an International server so they have the right to speak whatever language they want to is like dealing with a self center donkey. Beside it’s not like they are talking about you, geez, get over yourself and just ignore it.

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#16

“All the spam” You guys that complain about that are so spoiled lol
I play in orsha too and I play in Brazilian “peak” hours and barely see 1 shout every 30 min fin portugues. Wtf man, its just some letters in the chat, if u cant stand it go back to offline games

Edir: And like the guy above said, its an international serve without any rule agains speaking another languages, so all these topics have no reson at all

#17

Biggest problems for you is team storage potential loss and brazilians?

First, you as many of other don’t even understand what potential FEATURE is.
Second, brazilian spammers are disliked, but american spammers are not better or french ones, so you are just caring for your own racism.
Third, every other country try to learn english and other languages while you just think knowing yours is fine, stop being self conceited, this game is hosted on NA but announced as international and Brazil has the biggest piece of players

Next thread he’ll be saying “Why isnt IMC cleaning my ass?”

#18

Biggest piece no, most annoying in server shout? yes. Also I found this in another thread, but it fits this one pretty well.

  1. Brazilian isn’t a race, it’s a nationality.

  2. BRs have earned their reputation and then some. I have played too
    many games where any global chat is spammed with Portuguese followed by
    HUEHUEHUE, while they hack, bot, ruin the economy, and generally make a
    complete mess of whatever game they are a part of. This is not just my
    anecdote either. Stereotypes exist for a reason, and there are
    thousands of stories and mountains of evidence all over the internet to
    showcase exactly why they have the reputation that they do.

  3. Are all BRs bad people? No. However, that’s how the human race
    works. Instinct drives us to make generalizations based on past
    experience, so that our brain works more efficiently, instead of
    separately and individually processing every single detail of every
    encounter. The world lives and dies by labels, and no amount of SJW is
    going to change that.

Hope who posted this doesn’t mind i put it here, but it fits so well.

#19

30% of all players are brazilians if its not biggest you should research a little… maybe not cause you like to be naive and dumb just to get some attention

#20

Source?

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