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SO... CRAZY IDEA TIME for H.C. Friends!

Perma death no! Full loot drops on death funny as flux, pvp zones with full look drop on death plus no respawning outside of towns without fast travel sign me up!!

I am still looking for good examples for a big post but since for now more people have posted. If there is a choice why would anyone care. If it did not affect the core game and was just added later as an option for people who wanted it. I am not particularly a huge hard core fan but more diversity in game play options can’t be bad as long as they finish the core game first. I do understand how many issues just by adding perma death can happen. A group hardcore game in an MMO could make a whole new breed of games and what if ToS happened to start that. The concept would not appeal to the majority by any means but for some it would be exactly what they have looked for as I have not found any examples of a perma death game that’s an MMO. I am sure because of all the issues that come with that idea but if its separate from the main experience then why not.

This topic has been already discussed like a hundred times before.
IMO its a NO.
But people will like it.
Diablo is good at it, go for diablo.

Permadeath sounds quite dumb in an online game.

A handful of people will try it. A small handful, and they will dedicate themselves to it, only to be killed after much effort in a boss fight or due to a lagspike.

You guys have seen how boss fights later in the game are right? Some bosses have neigh unavoidable attacks, dying is a VERY common thing.

So unless you dudes make a pocket priest and give yourself auto-ressurection everytime it’s off cooldown, Permadeath will come out as frustrating, unpopular and above all, useless.

Worst part is, I can just tell that if it gets implemented a handful of people will want to head straight into the devs’ inboxes and flood it with requests to reactivate their dead characters because they were killed by silly reasons, not to mention the amount of players that would downright quit the game in frustration after losing their char.

Seriously guys, crazy ideas are fun and all but this is just silly!

So far LaScoot has had some real game play reasons that would need to be figured out before it would work. But truthfully if the only reason is because it doesn’t appeal to you then its invalid as a point as this is all under the assumption it would be its own entity and have its own balancing after the fact of the normal mode. Yeah less people would play this mode and to someone who does not play and perma death it may sound stupid. But the time it takes to level up is not a factor to a player who truly enjoys this as they would accept that they may spend a long time and then die. The tension that causes is a lot of what makes it fun for them. As for them losing there character. Yes it is frustrating but that is why the normal mode is there to play the game and be able to die. This option is for those who accept that it will be frustrating and want the challenge.As for attack being unavoidable then it becomes a thing where you have to scout out and learn bosses and gear very well before attempting to do the harder content. Then its still did I prepare enough and if not do you have the skill to make something that is normally very very hard actually happen. This is what a hardcore more is for to force situations of meaningful decision on whether or not to keep going or prepare more at the risk of having to start from the beginning if you cant be revived or you can be but you dying puts the others who could revive you at risk. If they die then you will not be able to be revived this would put a large focus on healers who could revive and protecting them. It would also make solo play much harder. The norm for a HC mode would be largely different than the normal game play mode.

If they made it optional it would probably be like every other game that does it, and divides them on different servers. I don’t think we want to split our player base more.

Ohhh i didnt realized that this topic was beeing discussed somewhere. Well optional stuff is nice. That aura thing too. I Just thought that would be a nice ideia for someone looking for a challenge…