Tree of Savior Forum

So can new players start playing yet?

I’ve convinced my friend to give the game a try but I have no idea if he can even start playing because of that recent new user block.

new players have to pay a fee of 30$ before they can download now

but you get 5 free megaphones and a kepa hat as compensation

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Thought it was 3 megaphones, it used to be 5 but IMC decided that was cutting into their profits too much.

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woops i forgot to mention its only 5$ in the other regions

so if u and your friend want to play together u can do that instead

No, not legally.

And by that I mean there’s a steam bypass but I would not advise using it as it is a bypass and abuse may end up screwing your account. Just tell your friend to wait. However long is unknown.

I’m just not for avid trolling unlike these chaps.

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I used to be a fine contributor with a super positive vibe until the white knights took a crap on my face because I made a gameplay suggestion they didn’t agree with :slight_smile:

To answer this question seriously:

I am about 70% sure that IMC is waiting for their TP system to be completely bug free. I think they are beta testing it on the players right now lol. Once the TP purchases are fixed, the token compensation period ends, token prices drop to $9 they will likely reopen the game for DL that same week.

im not a contributor

in fact im very very proud that i havent spent a cent on this game
because if i did i would hate myself

its literally everything wrong with mmo company greed in a big bundle
its like they took pages out of nexons handbook

All of this is confusing me, can he play or not, and how exactly can he purchase the game if its even possible?

The game is still free to play, no purchasing to download and start playing. IMC has not announced or even hinted at when the game will be available to download again.

Just keep checking the News and the forums.

He cannot play yet.

Your friend just need to wait till they open up the game again.

I still am moderately cheerful of a contributor because I don’t let a misused name claim change my perception. Seriously, I’ve been called a White Knight enough times on here to become a Paladin and not care, honestly.

But that’s just me, really. I try to not let them get to me.

Just FYI you can completely bypass this. They removed the button but if you do some Google-fu you’ll see it’s completely possible to download it and play anyway.

Classic IMC security.

Well I’m a selective troll. If I see people replying in a way that isn’t very well thought out like, “I don’t have a problem with it” ya know just completely giving the middle finger to some guy or girl who is annoyed by something in the game, that is when I start my trolling.

Because I used to try to hold an intellectual discussion with them but it was the same as trying to debate with a wall. I’m not marching an anti-IMC or anti-ToS campaign, just anti-retard. I just can’t stand people who throw away other people’s feelings about the game by basically insulting them.

I feel like ToS’ success over the long-term is going to depend on slowly weeding out little annoyances in the game design and it really pains me to see people with a ‘deal with it’ attitude instead of suggesting things get changed to be less frustrating.

I may be wasting my time on the forums but I still think ToS has quite a charm to it and I’d really like to see some of the things frustrating me to death get changed.

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You announced to the user base that you’re against resets in a game that, without them, is barreling towards a catastrophic loss in interest when the higher levels come around or any balance changes.

You’re just as guilty as the white knights.

I don’t know what half of these conversations are going on about but thanks for the help everyone! Told my friend he’s just going to have to wait.

Well I didn’t understand the time loss and consequences of wrong class choices being made during the final class ranks.

To be frank, I feel that no one should end up with a month of time lost due to balance issues with particular class synergies. I based my opinions solely off the first 100 levels, which I was naive about.

I feel like the game needs better balance and a way to feel if something is working as you are leveling the character rather than a previously working build ends up irrelevant immediately after hitting late game.

IMC can add a complete class change system, sure, but isn’t that just a band-aid over the bigger issue which is how the game is balanced and how things scale as you level up?

I stated an opinion but I’m also open to change my opinions and after I gathered the opinions of people in that thread, I’ve been considering about the whole design of this game to begin with.

I’m not looking to stand by a design decision in the game if I feel it’s going to be particularly destructive to the game in the long-term so I try to keep myself open to change despite having my own opinions on things. This is one of those things that needs to be tackled by IMC to either balance classes better or offer some sort of system to let them revert to previous class ranks or a full reset (as a last resort).

I would just prefer they make it easier for the player to make the right decisions or they balance classes so there’s more possible GOOD synergies between them. One of the many things I agreed with with the commenters of my post is that the game has a sort of ‘trial and error’ system which is like gambling your time. It might not be so bad a year or more later when there’s guides for everything on the internet though… Even then not everyone is going to think about using a guide or even want to use a guide when the fun should be deciding on what to do as you’re playing the game.

If this still makes me a ‘white knight’ to you then sorry. You did reply to me in my post about the class changes rather rudely and I just replied back with equal mannerism :slight_smile:

Tree of Savior is broken because of its inherent design. That’s why there’s no saving it because fixing it involves completely uprooting several of its basic core design points that don’t really stand a chance of being altered (such as the class system being functionally pointless when many classes and skills are worthless).

The reason however that much of the terrible design is so deeply woven in to the game’s blood is a vocal group of players who love the old school masochistic style, where that style is essentially built around an age of games that were all inherently flawed by nature of their generation, when games were still blossoming and development was still so exploratory. Tree of Savior might have been an excellent game 10 years ago. Groundbreaking even. Fantastic in almost every respect, but now a days there are much higher standards.

Tree of Savior is a glorious example of how nostalgia CAN sometimes be misleading and how what the consumer wants it not always what the consumer needs.