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Simple way to Aias +12 100% potential according to a certain guild representative

Hello guyse. :slight_smile:

Welp, Iā€™ve been wondering why there are so many overrefined items in Silute (SA) with full potential, so I just asked in the shout about that +12 Aias, and then I got a great tutorial by LaNo!!!

Screenshots below:

Translation (top right -> bottom left -> bottom right)
2- ā€œIf I donā€™t have one itā€™s h4x0r, 'congratulations m8ā€
3- ā€œDo the following: buy 1 weapon from the NPC, and try an upgrade per day.ā€
4- ā€œWell, I gave you the tip, now just do itā€.

Iā€™d like to ask the community if this tips works, as from +3 to +12 there is a (.88 * .78 * .68 * .59 * .51 * .51 * .51 * .51 * .51) chance to upgrade it without losing potential (0.95014323313% chance to be correct).

(Source: http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/224102/ )

Being it a low chance and the item is an Aias, I do guess itā€™s an useful tip, isnā€™t it? :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

OK, leaving sarcasm apart, isnā€™t that too much of a ā€œlucky upgradeā€? Itā€™s pretty known that such weird stuff started appear lately, this and @Sorien, the creator of Hook64 citation arenā€™t related anyhow?

Plus, why trying to defend something like that? Not that +12 Aias should be something prohibited, but without failures itā€™s hard to believe itā€™s merely luckā€¦

That also opens a pretty obvious point: Hook64 seemingly works only with ESO (graphic-wise) and ToS (as you might already know). How come there is not a patch nor punition for those who used it yet? The answer is obvious, I know, but it is something to question.:disappointed_relieved:

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the sorein guys a scumbag but i admire his dedication to fk with the inBRedā€™s

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Can u post a detailed explanation on how they do it?

For your information, its all luck. I got a couple of items to +17 without any fail. Yes, they were low level items but its doable. I also got my mana mana to +10 just to fail all potential back to +6. Itā€™s all luck. Had it been + 25 no pot lost then maybe would have been a hack, not +12ā€¦

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How about this one???

I just saw it todayā€¦ possible?

Yes it is possible, the game is coded to allow it.

It is highly improbable though (throw your accusations of hack/abuse here).

of course its possible. Its expensive and makes you wonder thoughā€¦ However, still possible.

A bit beyond lucky but possible.

In IMC We Trust

(KEK)

Let me show you my +15 with no potential loss weaponā€¦ Yes straight up 15 consecutive tries all success.

If only Danmaku:Zero (retired by breaking), Danmaku I (retired by breaking) and Danmaku II is like thatā€¦ :persevere:

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Will investigate the logs of this ID and thank you so much for your reports.

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Letā€™s make ToS a little bit more interesting, :smiley:

Cheers.

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Its possible by failing 2-3 fodders in a row. Might be some weird probability coding done by imc unintentionally but who knows. Tho some luck is still needed. Look at my Dgc which uses 3fails in a row before upgrading it and failed 4 silver anvils as well, and compare that to the crap Club which uses 2 fail fodders in a row before upgrading. :sweat:

The fodder failing tip does help tho still depends on luck if u want perfect potentials. Tho theres always a possibility of exploits used to get those perfect ones. :smirk:

Btw I think its 51% success rate for each try on +5 onwards to +15 not sure the success rate for +20 above. The method was xplained in another thread where the chances of getting a success in an upgrade is higher after failing twice in a row. Its like after flipping the coin for 2x Heads in a row, the chances of getting another Head is lower due to probability especially when the chances are 50%. Thatā€™s why ppl are testing them on the fodder weapons before upgrading the main weapon. I kinda sux at explaining this probability thing lol. :joy:

You ā€œsuckā€ cause itā€™s not true. Given the coin hasnā€™t been altered, regardless of previous attempts and results, each time you throw the coin at a new round, itā€™ll always be 1/2:1/2 chance for head and tails.

u prolly didnt understand bout probability nor what i meantā€¦ oh welp whatever which floats your boat

just some math tips for u, while u float your boat. :smirk: https://www.mathsisfun.com/data/probability-events-independent.html

In the end, those r just purely mathematical speaking, luck still do play an important role to get perfect pot else its just merely exploits.

I like to report this guild ā€œKnightsofFenrirā€ in SA server tooā€¦ i saw a couple of his members and most of them have insane and ā€œluckyā€ weapon upgrades.

Would be nice if u could show the +23 SCR potential as well :sweat_smile:

it have 0 potencial (I do not know if he lost the potential to not generate suspicions), iā€™ve hid because it was showing my skills.