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Shout Out to IMC for today's update

Honestly just feel so player friendly. I am super excited.

  1. Two new classes (even though I don’t have a wizard lol …)
  2. Worldboss FINALLY REMOVING 315 recipes (2 hours of Rexi turns into a regard horn pike recipe …), better rewards in general (not sure what ingredients are needed for the new ominous spirit crystal). They didn’t fix perma blind but logging out+back in/moving out of town won’t reset your distribution anymore and that is HUGE for everyone.
  3. Questing stats reward making questing slightly better
  4. Mercenary post is now actually worth running (144000 silver per 360 character) and 200k worth of attribute points

Overall just feel like a very well put together spring update. Thank you IMC

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You make that in less time (waiting in queue or soloing) by hunting on HGs 270+, specially with a Thauma or Kabba.

+1 stat will really make a huge difference. /sarcasm off…

Half-baked change, they didn’t add the 315 to lower Lv bosses? The 270 ones? If they already have ignore this one.

2 classes and we get 1 reset, then again, I wonder when the next class balance will hit us, I do hope they at least put the Reset NPC instead of this, not to count it’s timed crap, and same for the rewards of AJ.

I actually did the quests for the stats :sad:

btw, it’s not as if you only get 1 stat, you can get up to +3 stats via quests now for all base stats except CON (CON is only +2…), and another +1 to +8 via collecting titles.
If you put all the boni from collections[c],quests[q] and titles[t] together, that’s quite a few points you can accumulate (5c+1c+2c+3q+8t =19 STR, 2c+2q+8t= 12 CON, 1c+1c+2c+2c+3q+8t= 17 INT, 3q+8t = 11 DEX and 2c+3q+8t = 13 SPR), and I think there will be more boni incoming.

Only responding to your farming comment:

  1. Not everybody runs a Thaum farmer, and you can run the mission on every single one of your character. Also, I run a farming zealot with 8k physical attack and 800 looting chance, I can tell that it’s just different to get pure silver… You don’t always get primus steadily (I have tried farming 4 hours with 0 primus) and the market is SO saturated with all the hg blue/purple gears that unless you get 2-3 lines of green you are turning things into powders. Pure silver on the other hand has 0 gambling factor and that’s why everyone back in the time abused 300 instanced dunegon on all their characters.

  2. You don’t wait in que for this, anyone can solo this really quickly, most of the time used are just waiting time in the mission. You can also choose to run with 1-2 friends and you don’t have to literally kill every single mob on the map to get the full silver reward. Mercenary in theory is faster than the 300 instanced dunegon.

  3. You can get card drops from mercenary post now. A guddie got a marnox card the other day lol…

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First off, I’m not referring to only farming builds, second, I’m not referring to items, only silver, so I can assure you that you can earn more by farming HGs than wasting time waiting in a queue or going solo a mission.

I have a Falc 3 and do some HGs for around 43 mins whenever I feel like it (this game is freaking boring so I come occasionally) and I earn around 400-500k silver in that small time.

I don’t have to bother change characters to earn some good silver in the time you might go and do missions with all your chars, be it waiting in queue or soloing.

To be honesty, the only worth in missions was the mat for some stuff, then again, most are blue recipe stuff that are outdone by unidentified stuff, now they added these bosses and the card drop chance, which is good imo, but it still need a lot of work to be really worth.

You can simple go and do album parties for cards, and might even find more people doing it when they implement the album exchange for the black one, imo is more worth than missions where you only have 3 chances to get a card per day.


I’m not saying the changes are bad, just bad implemented, it feel more like a beggar’s game than something worth playing, specially for some “casuals” (if that is what you call people who have small time window to be playing), then again, only a few will have reset vouchers among the hardcore ones, so it’s basically the same thing.

I agree, it’s a very nice patch indeed. The only thing missing is something like “and yeah, we’ve fixed the huge lag problem in Silute, sorry for that”

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43 minutes is not a small time. 40 minutes for 400k silver translates to 100k silver per 10 minutes. Deduce that will pot cost, repair cost, buff cost, you might actually end up with less. You can complete a mercenary mission for less than 10 minutes solo for sure, and it requires much less than a well geared character to effectively farm 340hg.

Albums don’t come for free, there are 200k+ each in my server… I also don’t see why people would include you for their card parties if you don’t belong to the guild/group. It’s not that simple, and even when you do card parties you get a whole lot of enhancement card fillers instead of the actual cards. Point here is that they don’t conflict each other, and it’s a nice progression.

Not bad changes but a beggar’s game…what…? It just seems like you will never be satisfied unless some game breaking changes are made to benefit YOU in particular, to be honest.

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My gear is the pretty bad tbh, I make 400-500k in that 43 mins at dun 270.

You need to buy albums? They drop in heaps at HGs lol.
Also, I’m not in a guild, I actually avoid it like the plague for my own reasons, and don’t you have some friends to do a album party? I get invited sometimes by some friends, even tho they are doing with their guildies.

And I don’t see the “point here is they don’t conflict…” happening, is there even a conflict on that?

Not sure what you are on about, I don’t see what is game breaking for you, but I don’t find most rewards of this game worth what we have to work for them. I’m not asking to give 350 weapons/armors/accessories, neither practos.

Have you wasted your time doing gimmicks? I see people doing or have done them just for the achievement tho, but mostly, you get white recipes from stuff that you don’t even bother in using.

Some dungeons give you mostly Lv 1 gems and blue stuff you get from some side quests that also you don’t use, except for feeding gems. I’m not saying to make it 1 out of 3 to give a good recipe, but could change to some Silver (10k-20k) or mats for the recipes that can come out of it.

Also, why timed items for the rewards from quests? Why can’t I chose when to use it? They want to lock it per char or 1 time per account is fine, but I don’t see why put timers on stuff.

That also apply for the reset voucher they will give through Mail, many people won’t log and will probably log in the spam of a 5-6 months time, and still lose the voucher, since even the Mail expire.

And just to finish my involvement in this thread, because this is stuff that we have been discussing since CBT times, the game is boring enough to some, if not most, since the numbers dropped greatly since release, and IMC don’t wake up to put something of value.

http://steamcharts.com/app/372000

Just so you know, these numbers aren’t really precise, since by the simple fact you only keep the game open in the main screen, already count as playing for the charts.

We gave lots of good suggestions, nothing game breaking, and fun to implement, we also gave suggestions to Cash Shop, to increase their profit, see if they even considered the ideas?

And last, but not least, the game idea is good, just bad implemented by the company behind it.
I’m still waiting to see what really will be of this game at the Lv cap proposed by IMC (Lv 500), that is, if this game still alive till them here on west.

ROTFL, all this criticism and nobody here understands that the mercenary missions that will give out free attribute points and money aren’t something to queue for. Won’t spoonfeed, will leave the pleasure of discovery to you guys.

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A Falconer doesn’t even need any pots. The birdy kills too fast, and doesn’t waste your SP (I don’t even bother having SP pots on my Falc anymore). At worst you’ll use a few HP pots.
Repair ? You don’t need to repair that fast. Buffs ? Buffs are cheap as hell and last 45 minutes (Blessing).
And most of all, what you’re saying also completely works for the missions. Actually it’s worse in the missions because bosses have more HP, which means you’ll definitely have to use SP pots. HP pots if they have a lot of aoes and/or you have to fight several at the same time.
Missions are better for characters with no DPS and who basically depend on Sacrament and Blessing to kill (like my SPR Thaum 3/Chrono 3), but for a character who can deal some damages, HG is much more effective and lazier.

It’s not that it’s a useless or bad addition. It’s more of a “Eh, only… ?”. Same for the quests. Back in the day I did all the quests because they were rather interesting, I enjoyed the NPCs, and back then anyway you didn’t gain 10 levels for running one dungeon run so you had to do some quests and grind.
But now, you don’t. And +1 stat won’t change that. +1 is nothing. There’s a reason why people don’t even bother doing the main quests that give several stats anymore… They realized it’s not worth it. Unless your gear and skills are already maxed and you want to 100% the game, it’s much better to simply farm silver and improve your character than get those stat points.
People who love to 100% will go for it, but it isn’t at all something that useful or helpful.

Are you guys sure you all aren’t confused?

Because it says Mercenary Post Daily Quest, and I’m pretty sure it refers to those Missions that used to give a minimal amount of Base/Class experience, not Mercenary Missions, which are the ones like Siaulai or Catacombs.

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Finally someone to point out the obvious :slight_smile:
Yes, the changes concern the quests you get from Donnes, not the missions.

AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH JEEEEEZ. Spotted the guy that doesn’t have a Falconer character.

Doubleposting just to give feedback about the actual thing, after I tried it:

Donnes gave me the mission to kill 150 monsters in Narvas Temple Annex. It took 9 minutes, and killing those monsters gave me exactly 89.694 silver, on top of the reward.

Screenshot for confirmation (you can see the complete drop/silver log on the left).

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I do, as a matter of fact. Or I wouldn’t talk about Falconer 3 at all.
Are you telling me that I should spam pots even though my Falconer doesn’t need any ?
He kills fast enough he doesn’t need HP pots (unless he goes and fights way too many mobs at once), and SP pots… ? He never even needs any.
Unless you decided to choose classes before or after Falconer that are SP heavy, I guess. Your fault :smile:

So, you are telling me that you use falconer without Preemptive Strike (which drains SP), you don’t cast Roost+Pheasant on packs, and you don’t keep aiming permanently active to enhance the damage of both Pheasant and automated Sonic Strike. You can easily check the sp costs on your favorite database, since you don’t really use the class.

Tl;Dr: a decent falconer walks with a mana i.v., saying it doesn’t consume sp is merely trolling, or not playing it correctly.

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I assume he was quit the game before the falconer patch released. Forum contains too much keyboard warriors which can’t be believe sometimes.

i second this. on the other hand, maybe he goes by SPR build :haha:

The game still crashes and is as unstable as a nauseous child with diarrhea on a carnival swing ride; which really makes people want to clear the area.

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Hey there again, I just came back to apologize for my mistake on my previous posts, I didn’t paid attention that it was the daily quests and assumed it was the missions (with bosses).

At last they did something to that useless thing that only gave Lv. 9 EXP cards after certain point.


As for Falconer, it’s not like you don’t use SP pots, but you use every now and them, I start with 50 and by the end of the buff timers (I generally stay till Sacrament fades) I barely used 10 pots, worst case is I stepped in a few Elite traps that suck SP so that number may increase by 5.

I don’t know if this also happens to others, but poison damage from some mob after lowering my HP to around half, it seem to lose a bit of effect or don’t reflect the damage caused in the HP counter. I find myself running around with half HP bar for a long time even being poisoned a few times, only have to appeal to pots when I take hits from Elites tho.

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