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Shinobi-Murmillo PvP stats after patch?Con or not CON?

Hi guys, I’m going swordman-PeltastaC2-RodeleroC3-Shinobi-Murmillo and I’m thinking to go full STR for max accuracy and some more damage.
I don’t know what to do with the CON stat because it seems useless in pvp because the stats are nerfed in pvp to their
proportion at level 200, also it seems easy to stack hp with 2.000 X3 head gears and maybe some red gems. In addition
peltasta and rodelero defensive kit is a big help for survive in pvp.
What do you think guys? I can go with full STR or I must add some CON, and what proportion or number?
Also, its in some way important having DEX for bunshin clones HP?

I’m Pelt2-Rode3-Murmillo.
I invested about 200 in DEX and the rest in STR.
But honestly I’m still undecided because I’m PVE player and I want to invest all in DEX for Evasion (in group I use it as a Tank).

@Rehail
With 200 DEX and the attribute “Guardian: Evasion”, you reach 350 extra evasion (plus the aumount from level 330). The question is… how much evasion you need to proper evade on 330 game content?

Even if you put all in DEX you don’t evade.
Evade is an old dream now. :frowning:

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Swordsman C1 > Peltasta C3 > Rodelero C3 > Murmillo C1
* I hope missing Shinobi don’t fuc* my build *

  1. What do you suggest as a minimum DEX for Murmillo?

  2. What do you think about this stat distribution? Less DEX? More STR or CON? All good?
    Final values: STR 186, CON 109, DEX 86 (using 32 bonus stats)

This way, adding gear -at really end game- should be:

  • With Emerngard Shield (+67 con) = 176 con
    Then:
  • With Max Peta (+14) = 200 str, 190 con, 100 dex.
  • With Solmiki Plate Set and Neck (+65 str/dex, +25 con) = 251 str, 201 con, 151 dex
  • With Solmiki Sword (+16str) = 267 str, 201 con, 151 dex
  1. I suggest 150/200 Dex aswell, for a minimun attack speed.

  2. Actually I’m 200 DEX and rest STR, nothing in CON.
    I prefer more in STR.
    Swordman basically have good HP. And, since vs boss you’re not in C all the time going CON i feel a little bit useless.
    You will tank a little only with mobs while grinding or do dungeons.
    With the endgame equip you can reach good Block and good HP aswell.

I’m talking about my personal experience.

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Why attack speed for Pelta>Rod>Mur? There’s no skill affected by ASPD other than Shooting Star.[quote=“Rehail, post:6, topic:360760”]
Actually I’m 200 DEX and rest STR, nothing in CON.
I prefer more in STR.
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I prefer higher STR too, but when you taunt in Earth Tower wouldn’t be better get more hp pool/block chance?

Sorry all the questions, but I need knowledge :smiley:

You answered yourself.
Your main dmg is Shooting Star.

Clones>Debuffs>Kunai>Shooting Star>Other spells>Kunai>Other spell until you have again Shooting Star.

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I don’t have clones =).
I got it now… For the duration of the Clones, any ASDP will add damage. Faster you go, more skills you can use in the duration. Right? Saddly, I don’t have clones.

there are 37 bonus stat points in this game

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Oh yeah! You are Pelt3! Totally forgot! I’m so sorry!

So it’s ok don’t put DEX if you don’t want to.
At least put 50/100 CON, rest in STR.

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Yep, just realized this is a Shinobi’s topic. Sorry for that.
Anyways… My stats for SWD1>PEL3>ROD3>MUR1 will be: STR 220, CON 111, DEX 50. HP = 46k
Adding:

  • MID GEAR: Lionhead Shield (+40 CON), Max Petamion (+14 all stats) = 234 STR, 165 CON, DEX 64. HP = 55k
  • LAST GEAR: Emengard Shield (+67 CON), Solmiki Neck (+40 STR/DEX), Solmiki Plate Armor Set (+25 all stats), Solmiki Sword* (+16 STR) = 301 STR, 203 CON, 75 DEX. HP = 71k
  • Both Abdochar and Pevordimas Sword doesn’t give stat points.

Hope it helps someone.

AS A SHINOBI… DEX would increase the HP of your Clones and the aspd of Shooting Star.

I’m sorry!
I was doing dungeon and I wrote in hurry! >.<

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@Rehail
Semi-off topic question.
Does clone copy any pelt/rod skills?
Based on what I’ve understand so far, dex doesn’t increase any pelt/rod skill animation speed then? (Just want someone to confirm)

Sorry for my terrible english

@Rezzette
Yes, the skills are:

Peltasta

  • Umbo Blow
  • Rim Blow

Rodelero

  • Shooting Star

Shooting Star is your main DPS as Pelt2-Rode3-Shino-Murmi.
If I’m not wrong only Shooting Star is affected by DEX.
I suggest to put 150/200 DEX and rest in STR.