can somebody with ktos exp answer this please
do swordsman dont get picked up in parties in earth tower if they dont have atleast pelta1?
at what level will does earth tower start?
and will 2hand sword sync well with shinobi?
this made me ask this questions
this build sems just…bad?
If there is any reason for anyone to take Swordsman into earth tower :
Swashbuckling
The mobs at Earth Tower are aggressive and hit REALLY hard. If there is someone who is capable to control those mobs while tanking their attacks, that is Swordsman with Peltasta at least c1.
High Damage
From your build alone :
Bunshin no Jutsu-Double Slash/Thrust combo is great at bossfight.
Bunshin no Jutsu-Kunai combo is great at bossfight, PvP, grinding.
Cross Cut-Skyliner combo is great at bossfight, grinding.
Moulinet is great in bossfight.
Mijin no Jutsu is great to 1 shot kill opponents in PvP.
My comment about your build :
You need to take Restrain lv 10 in order for it to brings impact.
Concentrate scales badly at late game, so you only need to take it at level 3 where you can grab the bonus damage attribute. You can use the points to increase Pain Barrier instead. Pain Barrier is your life saver against enemies with knockdown skills (fellow Swordsman, Falconer, etc).
You shall take Kunai at level 1 only. Level 4 Kunai only provides more 101 damage (291 vs 392) which doesn’t bring any impact, even if you use it with your bunshins it only provides 5 x 100 = 500 more damage.
However, if you take Mijin no Jutsu at level 5, you can deal 4812 damage (2400 vs 4812). Your health sacrifices also gets smaller from 6500 to 4500 (2000 HP difference!). If you use this together with all your 5 bunshins, you can deal more than 20k damage (1 hit kill in PvP). This makes much more impact compared to Kunai lv 4.
In short, my skillset for Shinobi is :
Kunai lv 1, Bunshin lv 5, Katon lv 1, Katon lv 3, Mijin lv 5.
with Mijin lvl 5, 5 bunshins and bonus dmg u can do more than 45k base dmg i believe
@Erokhi
so i can do that dungeon if i focus on 2h dmg right?
What do you mean?
If you are talking about going for 2handed sword DPS shinobi build, then yes, that works. However, you can’t use Swashbuckling as a result.
i’m going for highlander and doppel, no peltasta
but now i was thinking about it and i dont know if is better to get corsair c1 for the hook, flag and key or peltasta c1 for swashbuckling and the evasion bonus
The thing is, most random parties will accept Swordsman to their party (grinding, dungeons, earth tower) if they have Swashbuckling.
If you go for Corsair, then this is the “best” build for Shinobi.
Swordsman Peltasta Swordsman Swordsman Corsair Corsair Shinobi.
Get flag at lv 10 for its max potential, don’t take Keel Hauling because it’s trash (when you cast Iron Hook and you use Keel, your enemy can move and use their skills), and the rest is up to you.
I’m not saying that 2h Shinobi is bad, but most people will prefer Musketeer, Cannoneer, and DPS wizards in their party as main DPS especially in Earth Tower. A Swordsman that can both tank while dealing damage is more preferrable.
if i use swashbuckling then switch to 2hand will the aggro pull from swashbuckling turn off?
It’s possible, and the aggro won’t disappear.
oh i’m not going for shinobi, i’m going for highlander c3 and doppel, but i need to decide the rank 5 class (corsair X peltasta) xD
If you are using 2h sword build, grab a Squire c1 for Repair. And I’m being dead serious because you already abandon Swashbuckling which makes people to love Swordsman. If you have Repair, at least there is a reason for people to take you in dungeons. You can help your teammates in hard dungeons by repairing their stuff.
Why not Corsair c1 for 2h sword build? You can’t use Dust Devil. You can use Jolly Roger at lv 5 but you will miss the max potential at lv 10. That leaves you Iron Hook, Keel Hauling (trash skill because your enemy can move if you pull them), and Unlock Chest.
If you are using 1h sword-dagger build, then by all means go for Peltasta c1.
i have a lv270 shinobi at krToS. this is what i have to say.
2 strong attributes for PVP:
speaking about bunshin no jutsu. i will say, it is pretty weak DEF once you summon clones. if you do not handle it well, your HP will drain fast and even to dead. for me, swordman c3 for bunshin is quite no meaning. i would prefer to get highlander c3 and max skyliner lv10 and doppel’s cyclone lv5.
kunai is the best attacking skills so far. bunshin no jutsu multiply the attacks with clones (5 for max). it works good too without bunshin no jutsu. generally, bunshin no jutsu is used when only good timing. cast it all time will endanger your life 
mijin no jutsu, i think there is a bug inside this skill now. it is slow and hit almost hit nothing. before the animation completed, you are already dead hitting by mobs or PVP players.
mokuton no jutsu is worth for 1/5. kunai is worth for 5/5, bunshin no jutsu 5/5, katon no jutsu is only using for hide so 1/5. the rest of the skill points, it is up to you.
if i were you, i will choose this way:
swordman => peltesta => highlander => highlander => highlander => doppel => shinobi
the best attack weapon is 2 hands sword. don’t choose corsair c2 for 2 type weapons because the attack output damage is very very bad.
i was thinking
swordsman>highlander2>pelta>highlander3>something>shinobi
becuase i played icbt2 with pelta and it takes a lot of time to kill mobs compared to highlander (becuase 2 hand sword)
or is it better to go
swordsman>highlander2>pelta>highlander3>dop2
btw, why do people dont pick/talk about barb? did they got nerfed hard?
lv1 to lv90 should be a day now we have random party system at dungeon and with the random party system, the exp +200% on top. why peltesta at rank 2 instead of highlander? because you will use it a lot at dungeon 50 and 90. leave the DPS works for your teammate like wizard and archer.
barbarian has a lot high cd skills. when all skills cd is still cooling, you will run out of skills for no attacking skils
Barbarian is good, but Highlander’s Skyliner is too good to pass. It is really great in PvE and makes your life much easier as a Swordsman because of its 0 cd.
If you ever want to go dop2, take it if you focus on 2h sword build and take Zucken & Redel. Doppel shines the most for 2h sword user.
If you want to go full 2h sword, then go for :
sword>high>high>barb>barb>dop>dop
Fill that “something” with Doppelsoldner or Corsair. I personally prefer Doppel for more damage output with Cyclone.
yea i agreed with erokhi. barbarian isn’t bad at all, just highlander is too good to be skipped
@aolgado1 you also can’t decline the power of cyclone. it is very known best swordie AOE damage skill.
wat.
but why? did they increase exp given by quest/monster by that much?
about kunai, katon & mijin no jutsu, since those skills doesn’t have damage type like pierce, slash, stab so did those skills scale with your weapon type ?
ex : using sword those skill will be slash type, use spear will be pierce type
also did bunshin increase damage both for katon & mijin no jutsu ?