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Seriously IMC? Trade regarding topic

So we can’t trade silver 'cause gold sellers, all materials recipe and stuff have potential of 1 if you trade once it’s the end, so hey i made a pardoner to get money but i cant buy stuff using his money to my main dps char… and now i can’t even decide for how much i want sell my stuff??? Come on guys!! Trading and market is a huge deal in any mmo! we need be able to to buy and resell, and put prices! demand and supply!! if the demand is high and the supply short i want put my item for high price… simple market knowledge!
Ok the gold sellers bla bla bla, you guys are doing great at the bans, so track them down using this system! and not limit us to do everything.

Edit: you get a kepa hat the most simple and stupid hat, use enchant scroll and boom perfect stats on it like M.atk 40 M.amp 40 and hp 700, but you can’t sell it for more then 10k on the market? ¬¬ come on!!!

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actually i like the 1 trade only thing, it makes ppl that really need the mats buy it, and those who just want to raise the prices can’t manipulate anything. in other games, a few ppl with A LOT of money can just raise/down the price of anything, and i don’t like that.

everybody that complains probably is one of those ppl xD that stay in the market all day to get mony and screw the “Normal” players

but i agree about the silver trading, team storage (can’t transfer premiun stuff, and normal stuf loses potential) and the min/max price

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i’m not complaning about the 1 potential that’s ok… my problem is about the all other restrictions! market it’s not about screw “normal players” it’s about supply and demand, everyone want that X item, i spend like 5 hours farming this item, i should be able to put a price on my service. if other person farm and put lower it should be able to, if another one want put high should be able!! It’s a market system, you determine how much your work worth and your service, and the client decide if he want to buy or not… simple if there’s people farming and selling for 200k, even if i farm I probably wont sell it for 900k, however… if a rich person need it badly and dont have one in market for 200k, if he is willing to buy for 900k i should be able to sell it for him!!

We already lost 10% in each market transaction, we pay fee’s, and we wait 48h to get our silver once it’s sold!!

WE USE SILVER FOR EVERYTHING! attribute enhancement, item enhancement, repair…

this limitations are stupid.

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Exactly this. I mean, I even DO that in other games. If the game allows me to be a ruthless businessman, I will be, and so will others. I’m glad you can’t manipulate the market like that honestly

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That’s fail statement for you there. Even the items that you go out and farm to sell on the market, for example, someone else can do it better (in this case, bots) so you cannot put any prices for your items and services and it will lead to absolute profit loss. That’s one of market rule.
But that’s not the case for rich person, they can always manipulate market to whatever direction they want because they have more than enough supply to afford their need.
I take it you never have economy class in college?

You made a topic that beats a dead horse… use the search function more often. This thread is just gonna be buried in the back just like the others.

We know trading is an issue, we know people are whining about not trading silver. The point is; we KNOW. IMC knows, what was the point of this thread? Awareness? Everyone’s aware about it.

this seems to be pretty much everyone’s attitude once they start to get a decent amount of money collected. “look, i’ve got something valuable, i want to sell this to someone who has more money than sense, and doesn’t even need it anymore”

stuff in the 120 and 170 range is already starting to have 3m and 5m price tags on it already. who in hell has that much spare money for just one item?
everyone is bitching because the limits are preventing us from completely breaking the market before f2p release even happens.

get your greed in check, people.

the min price actually will save the alchemists, when there are A LOT of ppl making potions, in kTOS they had a huge price drop on potions cus there were no min price

they should allow min prices for items like potions, but don’t limit gear/recipes and stuff.

the “screw normal playrs thing” is about someone buy all the low lvl mats for 1k and sell it for 2k, so “Normal” players would need to pay more without even know whats going on

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this is exactly my point. i’ve seen it happen before, literally in person. i had a roommate who farmed up a lot of money in wow, and started messing with the market. he’d simply choose a minimum price for a certain material… buy up anything below that, and remarket it himself.

at least here, the fees and delays make that unreasonable. posting something at less than 10% below the “average” price means that if someone wants to fix the price, they’ll take a loss on buying it to resell.

and everyone else is complaining “omg, i can’t charge millions for this random item! how dare they do this to me! it took me a whole hour to find it!” nevermind that by pricing it for “millions” it puts it completely beyond the reach of regular players who can actually -use- said item.

now i’ll give it to @leo_lechensqy that sure, maybe they should have a separate section for enchanted vs non-enchanted hats… but on the flip side, this is a limitation you should ALREADY be aware of, and you should pick a better base item for enchanting than a kepa hat, “the most simple and stupid hat”. come on, the market limits are nothing new… and i personally average 2-3 kepa hats on each new character.

ps, anyone wanna buy some kepa hats cheap?

What do you smoke ?
Afaik, currently min price screw alchemists since Dilgele are used for RMT.

And even if this system was working, it would not “save” alchemists since they’d still be able to undercut each other… Which means that potions price would still end as low as alchemists could afford it to be.

if the min price is like 1.2k for potions, u cant sell for less, and ppl would buy it, so even if there are 500 alchemists in the server, the amount of potions wouldnt make the price drops like crazy. in kTOS it happened, so many alchs that potions are almost free and they are whining in the forum
IMC just need to fix alch ingredients min price, something that isnt hard to do.

and i like to smoke poring’s’ jelly