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Serious complaint by offended customer

Hello IMC, after receiving answer to my submitted ticket I am forced to write this letter to you. I am very well aware that there has been multiple similar cases, but that does not anyhow lessen how offended I am by your customer service.

First of all I want to state that if you would answer some of your tickets with hand wrote messages, I wouldnt be writing this right now.

Here is my ticket in nutshell.
I was complaining about ur very failure trade restrictions that managed to ruin pretty much all my joy for first month and half of ToS. I told you how ur trade restrictions have no logic and how they bankrupted me, only because it was my first trades in game and I hadnt been lucky enough to hear about how ur trading restrictions truly work nor been teached it in game nor had experienced trading in this game before.

  • The situtation in my complaint was as following: I had karacha dagger on my other character, and I traded it for aias recipe. Then I went to market (with another character) and bought the materials to craft aias. This item had been core item to my planned build since the beginning of game, and I had tried to get my hands on it since beginning. I was so happy to finally reached the point where I was only seconds away reaching my ToS dream of given time. Then for my utmost disappointment when I tried to pass the recipe to my other character I found out that it is undtradeable even between my own team members. In my happines of finally being able to reach my dream I had been careless and didint notice even after the first fail, of trading dagger to recipe, that the recipe had become undtradeable and so I didint test if I can trade it in my team. So as said in my happy hyping I went and spent all my money + many hours extra farming for remaining needed money to buy materials only to have all of this locked in different character. Not to mention I managed also to lose my karacha dagger (ment to be replaced with aias). Now we all know this has no logic in it, since if only I traded my karacha first to same character with materials, there would never been any issues, making it only a bad desing and way too hard system.
  • Now I said that I was careless, but we all know that it was not truly that, but the issue mentioned being huge noob trap.

Ok so here is how ur customer service reacted to this. Instead of giving me handwritten apology about the issue (which I as a real money spending customer would deserved) admitting ur failure in badly made RMT restriction that only showingly seems to affect players (not really slowing RMT at all, as we all know its still prospering) and hurt them in countless ways, you decide to add copy paste answer (that took you 2 weeks to make) saying that “the trade limit of item has reached its limit, we apologize any inconvenience this may caused to you”. This message only seems to me that you never even read my ticket, since I already said in the ticket that I know what happened. In these circumstances I cannot take this answer as anything else but “fu*k you, we dont care”. In all honestly, it would been better to never answer at all than sending this trololo answer.

  • Now I understand that for Company with this many customers, specially one working only trough internet transactions related to video game and never having any kind of face to face relationship with customers, it may sometimes be so that you happen to treat customers only as objective money income. This might even be a choice of some companies, since they never get to these awkward situtations where their customer comes to shop to return something broken and given how easy online complaining is to bypass, or it can be purely accidental for it to turn out to look like that simply by the nature of business model and having weak customer support.

  • This however cant or shouldnt be how things are. You have to remember we are not objectives, you are making this game for us, we are ur customers. You shouldnt take customers for granted, I for example have bought every DLC so far, all 3 original founder pack, all 3 discounted founder packs, even badly designed veteran and beginner packs, latest from only of my good will to support the game developement, not because it was a good product to buy. Doing so, I seriously am expecting to be treaded with respect and good manner, instead of getting copypaste answers with “fu*k you” content.

By no means this means that I am now planning to quit or even hesitating the slightest. I will remain your loyal customer, even that I am very saddened how you treat me personally. You cant deny the personal level of this specfic case since ticket is from ME to YOU and YOU answered to ME.

  • However I truly hope that in the future my tickets will be answered how I deserve to be answered as a respectfull loyal customer who have spent and who will spend alot more money in this game. Paying customers like me, who endure all this hardship together with you guys and plan to walk this road for years with you, dont grow in trees everywhere around you.

  • And even so that these kind of problems I mentioned in my ticket involve alot of customers, that doesent deny the fact that the problem is indeed in your game desing, in the information you give and how you execute your game. And for that reason (even that this is “just a game”, which I hope is not how u see things as a game designer) I feel that I should get somekind of compensation for the troubles I have suffered from these badly designed trading restrictions ment to prevent RMT, not to ruin gameplay of normal paying customer, and for the bad customer service I have received.
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    Irrelevant message for white knights

For all white knights, as I said, this is a NOOB TRAP. Easy to make mistake for player who is not experienced with ToS and bad restriction or too used to other games, and who has too many gaming hours to pay focus to some hard to see small red text when trading, quick read makes u think ur weapon loses potential like ah, not that all material and recipes become CHARACTER BOUND. And even so, this does not mean that I should receive “fuk you” answer that just repeats what I already said. And btw, copy pasting the correct answer from ur answer list takes about equal time to write 2-3 sentences that take like 30 seconds?

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best thing you can do is make the item on the character with the recipie and it will be tradeable again.

I dont know what you want them to say though… im sorry you dont know how the game works? You expected them to make an exception for you? then they will have to do this for everyone that sends a ticket. If you werent expecting them to make an exception and you already knew what the problem was, why send a ticket? to waste time?

Not saying that their customer service is perfect or anything.

If i were you, instead of complaining that you didnt get your handwritten apology and asking for compensation, id suggest to make the trade system more clear so others dont go through this same thing.

Well you didn’t quit so, way to speak with your wallet, I guess? They win.

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yea im gonna make item with char that has mats if i ever get aias recipe… but yea well, maybe they should compensate every1 who gets their face kicked in by terrible game design? for example if u make broken tv that only show 1 channel u are supposed to compensate that, no matter if its 1, 5 or 1000 customers. i am not expecting exception, im expecting them to compensate every1 actually, or atleast give handwritten apology and notification that they are trying to improve given part of game… instead of an copypaste “fuk you”, i guess that would be least customer service i can get for spending 170ish euros for game that is this raw?

speaking with my vallet would only hurt myself here, since i happen to like the game. but nevertheless im just showing that i expect them to step up on their service quality

How about you working at a customer support to get some impression how it is like? You demand hand-written replies, but that’s simply impossible when you need to work through hundreds of tickets every day. It’s not a paid support, so you definitely don’t “deserve” a hand-written reply, even if you bought cash shop items. Because what you invest there is probably by far not enough to pay hundreds of support employees that would be required if they wanted to give every ticket a hand-written reply.

Also instead of accepting your own failure of not having informed yourself about the trading system before using it, you blame it on IMC.
Isn’t there even a warning on the trade saying that the item will become untradable?

Also note that the customer support is there to help people that have actual technical issues or issues with payment. Using it to complain about a trading restriction is abusing it and you are wasting the employee’s time which they could use to actually help someone that really needs help.

Yeah it sucks that you lost so much silver through this, but just admit you made a mistake and do better next time.

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Wait, what???
Isnt there some sort of warning when you trade that says something about loss of potential and untradable and what not.
I’m not going to sit here and defend IMC, they have some shady practices; EXP Tomb, the beginers pack event token having no trades. But this complaint here is rather unfounded. Seems to me like user error.
Admittedly the trade restrictions are rather dumb to begin with but thats not the topic here.

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You should probably tag the staff on your post if you want them to read it.

well what lesson did we learn here?

LEARN TO READ THE GODDAAMN WARNINGS before clicking yes.

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Lol, there was @commanderloadfail, now there is @imcisgreedy. Looks like Usernames are the new hashtags for the ToS forum.

So… back to topic. @hkkim might want to look at OP…

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i can see the sun shining from ur white armor

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no need to quit anything

white knight riding on bands here on this thread :3

yes i know my weapons lose potential etc, but i dont know that if i buy material or trade recipe it becomes CHARACTER BOUND

i do not know why you consider my comment white knighting. i didn’t defend imc or anything lol. he made a mistake that was avoidable. ignorance is no excuse. LEARN TO READ

Your comment is absolute white knighting, by the time of trade I had played like 400hours maybe more, I will not notice some shady hard to see red text babbling about something when Im trying to make trade of my ToS life. You might be casual enough to carefully read and proceed all texts u see in game (specially those that are implemented with bad hard to read overlay), I am not, not even reading lore just spamming space to get quests.

Then don’t complain about the consequences if you can’t bother to read the warnings. Seems rather simple to me.

what? i hate imc just so you know. but i also hate ignorant people. i’m telling you to read next time and thats white knighting? casual enough to read a warning sign? i always read warnings.

imc’s service is ■■■■ i tell you. you can’t rely on those fvcking tickets. next thing you know game is dead when they answer tickets. SO WHAT IM SUGGESTING YOU TO DO IS FVCKING READ. it might also improve your reading comprehension and get your head out of your sh*thole.