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šŸ™€ Will leather sets & mastery become more useless starting at 180+ maps even for evasion builds?

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#21

100Dex at lvl50 leather mastery will only last you tillā€¦more or less levels130s(dependent on your boots and dex and evasion bonuses from other gear and skills), sufficient Con(between 60-100) is still a mandatory as players progress in the game.
Iā€™m surprised you can still rack up dodges with only 100dex in evac are their accuracy that low? too lazy to grind there yet.

I tried pointing out magic canā€™t be avoided with leatherā€™s evasion bonus unless itā€™s tile based or thru certain methods, but TSā€™s latest post now made me confused too.:dizzy_face:

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#22

U only need the highest leather boots for evasionā€¦ with 3piece plate(3piece HP mastery from plate), n a full magic defense set of cloth(4piece mastery for sp&mdef) to tank magic.

Unless u got a full spr mates/paladin n spam barrier scroll(magic deal 1dmg lol)

#23

AFAIK only cloth (Vine boots) and leather (Wind Runner) has movespeed bonuses at the moment. Nothing for plate which I think makes sense.

#24

You need to change your armor type according to your grind location.
Im playin high dex dopp 2, of course my main armor are leather set, but if i counter enemies with pierce atk, i just change my upper to plate (1pcs) and the other 3 remain leather there, your armor are considered plate, so you wont get that extra +50% damage from pierce(stab), and you still get evasion bonus from 3 sets leather.

VS magic type, of course full cloth set.

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#25

Try using Kevlar, block almost everything :sunglasses:

#26

Kevlar cant block 50BMG round dude! :laughing:

#27

Sw3>cata3>drag>lancer build here

Armor sets used: leather and cloth sets
Attributes: leather and cloth mastery only

Since im a pvp buildā€¦i dont bother to use plate set. As for leveling. I grind in mission and dungeons onlyā€¦so yeah. Git gud

#28

Almost, almost everything

#29

Never knew about that, so only upper armor dictates armor type for players huh, advice taken.

#30

Different strokes I guess.

In my experience, going full on an armor set seems more beneficial than going partial with just changing the top armor.

Please correct me if Iā€™m wrong, but the way I understood the followingā€¦

When equipped with 4 [Leather] armor pieces, your evasion increases from attributes by an additional 50%.

ā€¦is that at lv.50 max mastery youā€™d only get 75 bonus evasion in total.

Wouldnā€™t it be better if they made it a percentage (maybe 15%?) applied on top of your current evasion (base evasion from stats + equipment bonuses + pet if any)? This is why I think the leather mechanics needs to be reworked or improved.

I will run tests based on your tip though and see if thereā€™s no significant difference between just changing the top armor and changing full sets.

#31

yeah, only the top (upper). you can try it at town, duel with your friends.
ex. you use 3 pcs leather, and 1 plate upper. you wont get that +50% stab. vs pierce type.

#32

my eva using full leather was 871, and if i change my upper to plate, my eva was 824.

#33

Yeah lv.50 max leather mastery give you 75 evasion. (50 with 3 pcs)

They should give more effect to leather mastery too in my opinion.

#34

I did some quick test and can justify that against high-accuracy piercing monsters itā€™s better to go full plate than just using the top armor (the rest being leather).

With just plate top armor:

Full plate:

Against low accuracy mobs maybe going partial will work or when thereā€™s a mix of damage types (2 or more monster types in a group/map).

#35

As a High Dex Character with maxed Leather attribute fighting close ranged but seldom melee, always playing together with a full plated RANGED partner, I can say:

As stated already, it depends on the situation:

PvP/Magic : everything dies to magic [or headshots in PVP hehehe]

Against large groups of non-magic mobs: Evasion is my best friend, not suffering as much as a plate user

Bosses: The very most boss attacks so far are dodgeable, so yeah (I saw +200 people dieing from the mineloader boss and its nasty aoe. My dodge nowadays saves me all the time from it)

Dodge is always something which needs a certain (high) amount to be effective. It sucked until around lvl 100. I could start to rely more n more later on. Curently at lvl 180, Iā€™ve heard that the real thing comes at you starting in the 200s and I am eager to see what I have to change what canā€™t be done through tactic.

#36

yeah, you just need to switch between, or mix, depend on the situation.

#37

soooā€¦

this are physical attacks?_?


:confused:

#38

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#39

oh! thanks for that infoā€¦

wasnā€™t 100% sure of thatā€¦

:blush:

#40

Well chapartion in mission 2 seems to blast with magic chain lightning
At least its only boss I seen to wipe floor with peltasta 3