What is the point of cloaking in PvP if people can see you?
You can’t target a hidden player.
Ah so you’re only pretty much safe against auto attacks and targeted skills. But even then, they can simply turn to your direction and auto attack in that direction to reveal you?
My experience with cloakers in pvp is that you’re safe from anything except targetted/aoe attacks… It’s a pretty weak skill honestly - one multishot is going to lay you flat on your back since you’re visible miles away.
Seriously, if you think someone is going to aoe you, gotta pop camouflage asap.
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Nope, not gonna work. So far, cloaking can only be countered with targeted AoE skill and scout’s skill called “Scan”.
From your experience (anyone who has seen a rogue in action), how good is cloaking objectively in PvP? I mean if you see a big shining red blob behind you in PvP, it should be a huge red flag for you to either get out of there or reveal it with an aoe, so I’m beginning to doubt it’s effectiveness.
Also @Midnightmare , just clarifying but camouflage doesn’t block magical aoes right?
Hopefully they make it so its full invisable, it’s not stealth otherwise =\
AoE skill need some time to be activated/casted which means it is not that easy for spellusers to hit hidden enemies. Besides that, I think those hidden enemies/players are not stupid enough to just stand and doing nothing when they knew someone’s casting a spell on them. Conclusion, it is still effective & deadly.
On the contrary, many aoe skills don’t really have a long charge time or no charge time at all (i.e Zaibas, Energy Explosion, etc). There are also non-targetted skills that deal damage in an area (multishot which is still single target)
@elysium
It’s effectiveness in PvP so far does not seem that great, and I do agree that some form of actual stealth (where you’re not just a red shadow), would be more effective/useful.
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I’m also worried that offensively as a skill, it isn’t effective. What you’ve explained was the defensive side of the skill - i.e. cloaked players should be able to avoid aoes easily (which fate then pointed to some counters to that).
But on the other hand, having the red thing ruins alot of stealth and surprise tactics, which are a huge part of offensive assassin gameplay. Just the fact that the enemy knows that you are near them, behind them etc. negates the possibility of the cloaking mind games that you could be playing with them. So offensively as a skill it leaves much to be desired.
They should just make it similar to the one in Starcraft2. Not completely invis but difficult to see if not paying attention.
This is zoomed in so it’s easy to notice. But trust me, when you’re playing, it’s quite difficult.
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I’ve only seen a handful of scouts, unfortunately couldn’t see if it also blocks magic - but it’s extremely effective nonetheless. Also, AoEs do not have a long charge - multishot needs 3 hits to instantly kill a cloaked player at lv 200 - this takes around 1 second to do. The only classes I could see having trouble with a cloaked player is swordsman classes.
imo Cloaking is very weak atm, it should be complete invisiblity + dust trail or something similiar.
I think they should make it completely invisible and keep that little “Shadow spot” on the ground. If you have entered a map and the people sprites took a while to load then you will know what I mean. that shadow spot on the ground would be pretty easy to miss in PVP with a lot of effects going on I think.
I think it’s pretty good already with the attribute “+50% dmg on next skill”
Yeah, the way I see it, it’s like a buff rather than a utility skill lol
I’m a huge fan of characters that has cloaking / hiding techniques this thread help me a lot! 
I hope I get a chance to participate in the next CBT. 
They can’t see you at all. Unless the target circle is still on you, you’re completely invisible.
wait so no more big red shadow?
With all type of cloaks theres always the issue of cheats. If IMC decides to make the cloak like @SixPool suggested or completely invisible they need to make sure to defend against your typical problems that come a long with it.
I cant understand what you were trying to say honestly. Cheats? And you already have a way to defend yourself. AoE.