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Say NO! to gacha, every type of gacha!

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#51

And that is without the need of gacha, but if you want to push it tot he extreme, 6s was just an example, you need 400+mil per unit if you ever want to try get 8s items.

Realizing youre not taking into account that i used 6s unit as example means you probably havent played much pso2 to understand how the economy rolls in that game, please im asking you to not use pso2 as an example in tos.

In conclusion, the money made through gacha in pso2 is still necessary.
Between pso2 gacha and tos gacha, the p2w items in pso2 is tradable, where in tos they arent.

a great example would be any obtainable “noble ability” or “attribute boost”

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#52

They are now @Ginbei .

As for boosts i am aware they are tradable.
Why would you want to push 8s when 6s is suffix for general. For sweg?
the 8s there doesn’t even provide you much of max min when the increment of damage is lesser than 2k lol.

At times it doesn’t even count as a point as you still take the same amount of hits to deal with a particular same mob.

The additional 20-30 max min is not helping to keep you in competitive runs.
For example 5 runs TD1. You just need 9 force to do it. That’s the meta of competitive.
They shut off the maximum and limit runs so every one is fair game.

So there is no longer meta or what not. Since no matter what you do you are limited to ETC 3 runs of the event etc.
Competitive in a social casual game is a joke.
No matter how hard core you are you are limited in the game system itself. The only differences is time save in the game itself. like you can DO 4x runs in 15 mins and just rest till the next event starts.

everything is trad-able in ITOS now. That includes lolopanther you are out of touch here, Blessed shards for weapon transcend. Etc etc.

All gacha items exception for item upgrading anvils etc are untradable. Gem abrasive are also trad-able.

It’s more of a pay for convenience this case imo. The only real P2W are the rental necklaces. But those aren’t even really important it’s pretty much for max min. And requires Exchange medals aka ( in this case they are your gacha ticket exchanges)

#53

Do you know what Heaven and hell is? No? ok

You claim pso2 to be casual, yet you want to compare it with ToS.

Maybe i should just run endgame dungeons in tos with +0 items, because yeah, its max 3 runs per day.
¯ \ (ツ)_/¯

#54

Because your comparison are out of point. Hell?

Play PSO2 EP1. that’s hell :^)

ITOS Is pretty casual provided you are not into END GAME META Content.

Also you can just run with high tier + 0 weapon easily :^).

#55

Wait, are you trying to compare tos with outdated pso2 release now?

I dont even.

#56

Because you clearly don’t even understand what i am pointing.

#57

to be fair, by your reasoning, tos is alsoa casual games. why? you can only run dungeons 3 times, hence is tand by my point that gacha is not necessary.

#58

Ain’t i saying it from the first place?

If you ever played PSO2 EP 1 - > EP3 You can tell it’s basically the same shiet. The Punishing mechanics disappear at EP3. It turns into a rewarding you as you do good instead of punishing you if you fked up. E.g (look at the wise stance / FI changes etc)

What’s happen to ITOS now is pretty much similar ( i suspect they are really moving to what they say causal) .
Only big issue is ET needs a specific party to be efficient up there or to get through “Challenge”.

The other dun and what not are all limited. So basically to say you can clear xxx fast wow such amaze. You still only cleared 2-3 times for time efficiency. That it.

Just treat ET as a separate challenge MODE, just that it’s design is sucky as compare to other games. Pretty much if you can clear good if not just do whatever you can. Not as if ET weapons and gears are better rofl.

They will be trade-able sooner or later. You can just buy it off too from peeps who do sell them. (i am pointing to Solmiki)

Did i say gacha was necessary? It was just a implementation that IMC want players to cash in to milk.

P.S i din’t say it was necessary nor unnecessary it’s more of i can accept this.

The only thing i really dislike is why put Stats reset on exchange. Why not just in pure TP lel. the hassle. Sooner or later they will give you circle resets.

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#59

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#60

Me and my GF.

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#61

I’d go for the mount, if they release a new bundle for companions. :smile_cat:

#62

I was gonna spend the rest of my TP, get crap, and quit in a puff of smoke. But I guess the machines don’t want to see me leave. I got everything I wanted minus a halo.

I think this disqualifies me from having an objective view on the matter. Excuse me while I make roll a new swordie while pretending I’m dark helmet from Spaceballs

PS: I agree the boat load of new hats is definitely a conspiracy to get us to buy more enchant scrolls. TINFOIL HATS ON!

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#63

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but no! imc did nothing wrong everything is fine guys! leave imc alone!

it’s over now this is the future you choose white knights it’s ■■■■■■■ over now.

#64

maybe someone will hack them soon and open some other servers.

#65

I’m just going to leave this here.

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#66

Is it true that some asians when laughing don’t see anymore?

#67

You dont know any asians?

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#68

I am but with big eyes xD

#69

LIKE AN ANIME!!!

O ok

#70

But i am gay and i dont gacha.