Hi, my cleric is nearing the rank 6 change and i’m little unsure in what path should i follow it… My build until now is Cleric2>Diev1>Sadhu2 and i wanted to take some ranks as a druid. I’m unsure if i shoul go all way to Druid3 or if Sadhu3>Druid2 would be better. Could someone give me some insight on this matter?
Hard choice, both C3 are really important for their class, but I would say C3 for a Sadhu is more important right now than C3 is for Druid…
go give the Sadhu official thread a read and do the same with druid and you might find whats best for you…
Sadhu2-Druid3 in my opinion.
- Better Carnivory
- Longer Sterea Trofth
- Longer Transformation
- Lycanthropy
- Hengestone + Transformation 20% ATK/MATK Boost & 100% HP.
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@DrRM Thanks for the opinion DrRM. I read both threads before, but i found mixed opinions on this subject… Some prefer Druid3 other prefer Sadhu3 like you
@Wooshin Do you think the bonus that hengestone gives a good reason for the rank3? It gives a good amount, but it seens to have such a small duration… Better duration/damage for the ranks 1 and 2 skills sounds good, but i’m not sure about lycanthropy and hengestone.
To me it seens like a matter of which skills get better. Which skills benefit more from some extra points? Carnivory, Sterea and Transformation or Possession and Explosion? Which new skill gives better benefits? Transmit prana or Lycanthropy+Hengestone? Comparing those skills is what is giving me trouble
You can achieve 100% Uptime by putting Transform on level 7, 8 if you don’t want to see your character switch back to their human form. Well, longer Sterea means longer invulnerability which will help your Sadhu side a lot.
Regarding Prana vs. Transformation + Hengestone: Prana only gives + raw Psycho damage + 150% Bonus damage when using Possession and ABE, also you can’t have +100% Uptime with this buff. However, the +20% bonus damage ( from your base MATK, not including your weapons ) you get from Transform applies to everything.
I currently got a sadhu3/druid2 and want to switch it to the druid3 variant already…
Don’t get me wrong, neither are bad but sadhu3 is just more annoying to use and less defensive.
[u]Sadhu3/Druid2:
- Hits up to 14 enemies with Possession, and can thus cc more enemies.
- Deals more dmg with Cure, Possession, and Out of Body due to Transmit Prana.
- Can add 60-70% of your stats to target ally. (not sure if they get the property atk bit, but I doubt it)
- Transmit Prana’s added property atk dmg bypasses mdef entirely, which helps out more till you get a viena mace or heart of glory.
- Transmit Prana has a bit of downtime, somewhere around 25-5 seconds based on whether you used Laima and Divine Might or not.
- The cc of Possession doesn’t work on berserk elites and several seemingly random mobs are immune to it. (not resist wise, but mobs like elma are outright immune to it.)
Sadhu2/Druid3:
- Deals more dmg with ABE, Carnivory and any skill with a high skill factor(200%+ iirc) due to Hengestone’s +20% dmg.
- You have no downtime on your dmg buff from Hengestone at all.
- You can use Lycanthropy if you need a dash or kd immunity badly.
- You get a bonus +100% health from Hengestone as well.
- Your Sterea Trofh will be a 15s invuln instead of 10s.
~ Lycan needs a high atk weapon to work well, but you can simply transform into blom for a decent aoe on par with Hamaya.
- Carnivory doesn’t hit flying, so that loss of dmg will be more noticeable.
- Only hits up to 9 enemies with Possession. (10 with divine might. 11 with gem.)
Though keep in mind I haven’t had a chance to test how Hengestone’s +20% dmg is calculated yet. In theory, it should be a multiplier, but with IMC you can never be too cautious.
But dmg wise they should be really close. But druid3 is just easier to use, and it takes a bit longer before it gets good.
@Wooshin:
The “150% dmg for psy skills” Is actually a “+50% additional psy property atk bonus for psy skills” atm. So it’s not nearly as good as many of us hoped it would be.
The +150% is once again due to a faulty description on IMC’s part, and the misleading results most got when they tested it vs high def mobs with a low atk didn’t help either. (Since psy property atk ignores mdef.)
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Ooh, I see. No wonder I see no damage spikes on Sad3 people when they are under Prana’s effect.
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Thanks for the detailed explaination @Wooshin and @Wurmheart! I think you convinced me to go Druid3, the payoff looks better.
I’m still confused with the Hengestone buff time. The skill description gives a 13 up time max (lv6), but it has 27 cooldown. There is something i missing to make it have no downtime?
Could you give me some advice on the Druid skill points distribution? I think Carnivory and Sterea Trofh should be maxed and shape shift needs at least 1 point to get the transformations, but i’m a little unsure on how i should distributed the remaining points…
Hengestone’s own buff is a +1 to skill level for object/circles, and a bonus to Lycan/transform when used under its buff effect.
The +100% health, +20% dmg and +100 crit rate simply becomes a part of Lycan/Transform itself and will last as long as that state does.
Skillwise:
- Max carni, it scales nicely.
- Max Sterea Trofh, who wouldn’t?
- 5+ in chortas, with its +5s attribute you don’t really need it beyond that.
- 7+ in transform, 120s duration and 120s cd.
- 1 in shape shifting, solely used for picking a mob.
- 0/1 in Telepath, it can’t be used during transform/Lycan so it’s of little use. But it’s effect is good with the attribute.
- 1+ in Lycan as that only has a 5s downtime.
- 1+ for Hengestone as it only scales the aoe buff duration a bit.
You’ll have a lot of spare points tbh, but they won’t really make a huge difference past the ones listed above. Just grab what you like.
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sadhu3 hand down
most skill are better when u hit c3
Ooh it all make sense now! xD
Thank you for the detailed explanation on skills!!! I will see which ones i use more and put the remaining points on them.