been reading from friends and guildies that they still have their farmed items, dont know how true this is but the chances of so many people that I know to be lying about the same thing?
Coincidence or not, if it is true that people even if just some have all the items they farmed then, a rollback is not just another option on the table it is needed to stave off the apocalyps…
Apocalypse of what stop being an idiot with your short term thinking.
Can you even look forward 1 or 2 months ahead?
Unless you were planning on quitting in June anyways by August this will already have been forgotten. Just like the Seed event.
it’s dont mean nothing, he is trying to show that we all who cares for the game need some help about it, we don’t care about the weeds exploit, this is a new one and we need a new position from imc about that… so who need to stop being an idiot with short term thinking its you.
A rollback is explicitly short term thinking for a short term problem.
lol, short term thinking?
Lets see, a unknown amount of players seem to still have the very low drop rate items that they farmed when they should not have them, coincidentally those items happen to be some of the most expensive/in demand items.
I guess that is not a big problem if you are one of the players that have said items. The value of their accounts just blew up over the period of this bug by what 20 mil 40 mil 60 mil go on it depends on the items and the amounts.
If you think that this is just something that will be forgotten in 2 months you are absolutely out of your sane mind, the items in question are the MOST coveted items you can acquire in this game, how is that a minor issue?
Deflation decreases the value of items.
This is before even considering that outside of the monster gems which some people farmed all of these items are being obsoleted this year by R9 which they already announced.
They already chose their response and went for global benefits to all accounts whether they logged in yesterday or not.
So from a full day of the whole game being busted. To a long ass maintenence with people already given some compensation for the maintenence, allowing them to then play the saturday and then do a roll back? How much people are you trying to Irk on a game with already poor community management. Short term thinking.
If they were going to do a roll back they should’ve seen wtf was going on earlier in the day to minimize the effect on players. They’ve gone too far and you’re too jaded.
No. Rollback and everyone who joined for the revamp will quit
Add the fact that players who put items on the market got their items dupped.
they had the chance to do so during the maitenance, now it’s completely off the table. Apparently some of the biggest exploiters got to keep their stashes as well. The rich get richer i suppose, time to take a leave of absence till r9 maybe XD
Tell that to the people who thought sissel was gonna be useless when rank 8 came, has not happened yet did it?
Anyways what person would try to sell lets say 10 battle bracelets or 315 mats in bulk or right when this happened?
Now contemplate that a smart person would wait for this to settle down and then put up his items in batches of 1 or 2 and steadily get the maximum profit he could get, I can see that you arent thinking but that does not apply for everyone else.
If you cannot see the long term ripples this causes, just in terms of those players getting millions and millions from something that should NOT have happened is ludicrous,I rest my case cause arguing with someone of your vision is to put it mildly a waste of my time
Btw those millions upon millions can be used for any purpose storing it till rank 9 then asap buy the better items, buy items now like gem abrasives prac etc, enhance attributes anyone??
Thank you for taking the time to post here, in my honest opinion a rollback is the only thing that would fix this if anyone is able to retain any of the items acquired this way beyond the 1 unit that IMC alluded to in their post and even that is too much since the method to get that was a exploit (do you even know what that means?)
Yes I would opt for a rollback even now and even tomorrow if a player can retain like 3 or more bb’s or more than 3 4 monster gems or 315 mat cubes etc, level the playing field, or are we not all equals and INFACT endorsers of cheating/exploiting…
Yes I heard about the dupping just a few mins ago, this is getting so out of hand its just amazing at this rate the apocalyps will be here in no time hahaha.
Do not get me wrong I love tree of savior, been playing since the first beta and still here and will be here no matter what IMC does cause I like the game, but to ignore this issue and say it will be forgotten, oh boy what a statement!
IMC could obselete battle bracelets, Sissel, and gladiator bands Next week if they wanted to.
Particularly given the update in Ktos with Field bosses.
Like I said in the other thread. The biggest “winners” are the people who and horded up monster gems from places like Hannamings (again the entire game was busted move your head from a narrow section of the game). IMC can obselete or crash the value of BB’s next week and nothing ill happens to the community. The Gem EXP is of real long-term value as an item as its part of the item system. This issue also arrived last year with the weed event, and they moved on.
It doesn’t sound like you logged in (or you only ran Mission/Instance dungeon) and are not aware of the stat of the game.
If you simply played the game normally you got bonus drops. That’s not an exploit, thats the game being busted. That’s part of why everyone should and did get global compensation.
If you killed level 40 mobs you got drops (BB) If you killed level 50 mobs you got drops, so on and so forth. You’re trying to put that people playing the game are exploiting it because anything they do outside of logging off is an exploit by the way you’ve worded yourself.
The game was borked, if you went through any normal means of playing you had elevated drops. Which is why there was worry on the boards about people being banned just for playing the game. Outside of deliberately going out of your way to acquire something.
With the game being borked people playing normally went about their day. They quested, they grinded, they farmed they used their EXP tomes from their TPand the like. Except all these basic fundamental activities of the game were giving off elevated drops.
To rollback isn’t just taking items, it takes away any progress they made on their characters within that entire day. That would’ve been sensible if you minimized the people affected by doing a RB immediately instead of waiting till the end of the day. It could’ve even been somewhat understandable had they not
Already given people a bunch of tomes, and reset vouchers
Not now let them play again for more hours, and making more progress with their regular play.
If you’re not aware having logged on. The game is already continuing to move forward, as players who played and those haven’t played move on. Now you want to spin it back, because the wiping of peoples time doesn’t register. When a portion of the community already has a problem with IMC in their design decisions not respecting their time out of tree of savior to have them erasing the time they put into it. Regular honest players were already wondering if they were going to get banned for playing the game (read the other threads) because the elevated drop rates were only avoided by not playing the game (again it was not limited to your mats, HG’s or Battle bracelet. Hence everything they did outside of missions gave them drops). Meanwhile you’re shouting exploit like you’re ignorant to what actually happened that day. If you played the game you got drops. Calling a global fuk up around the entire game player exploitation for playing the game is goofy. People aren’t going to self-regulate themselves to log-off. The easiest thing to see as an exploit are people going into zones they weren’t normally going to play on anyways. People grinding in the Hunting grounds? People are doing that everyday to begin with.
Fortunately while they made their mistake they’re already going for less intrusive and a far more respectable, given what has already occurred, means of resolving yesterday.
Listen here my friend,
I do not know if you have items on the list that you got during this extra drop rate fiesta or not, but you sure write like you might have a stake in keeping something, now that is a assumption and it could be wrong.
If IMC really cared about the time of their players they would not do a maintenance like they did and do it half assed now would they, unless you think that is good conduct for a company to have or not that is your opinion, mine is that it most certainly is not.
IMC COULD obsolete the price of bb’s and the like with what you said in your opening statement, infact they COULD do a rollback 2 weeks down this timeline aswell.
Did I make any issue about small time items and the like you might get from questing? No I have not and the monster gem issue and even the cube and 315 mats issue does not bother me if they leave EVERY player that got multiple of those to just 1 unit, the matter of the fact is there are multiple players still having EVERY item they farmed when they log in now, do you start to see the problem?
Unless that is fixed to the point of it all being just 1 unit im fine with it if they do it manually like they say they are doing and what you say you find a good approach, my point is they arent doing a good job of it, far from it actually.
Now battle bracelets the reason I moan about this is because you just need 1 to make the best in slot item being the sissel or glad whatever your preference, not just that you can also sell it and it goes for 7 to 8 mil on klaipeda were a few lower cause of all the bb’s dropping. I realize you can also sell the 315 mats etc but there is a difference from 1 2 mil to 7 8 mil, are you catching on yet cause I am done.
Roll back the server like tons of other MMO’s have done for issues nowhere near as severe as this in the current state of the game, COULD IMC fix this easily with another method? Perhaps. Is that likely to occur? I fear not.
Unless you find Oghma gauntlets from doing the alemeth quest chain, Which I’ve been very transparent about,
To be significant. The drops themselves do nothing to me other than reduce the price of crap on the marketplace. I don’t know what the DPK of those gauntlets are now, but before they changed the DPK in march I was already able to get the Strike and Leather bonus gauntlets in an hour of gameplay. So a surplus of them doesn’t give me anything nor do I gain a profit off of it but w/e.
If I didn’t play at all yesterday I’d still of benefited just from the amount of compensation they gave. Just gave me an excuse to throw 20 levels on a Thauma with this much EXP tome and I’ll do the same with this Wugushi. If anything all this stuff did is give me more reason to play to take advantage of this crap before it expires.
Other MMO’s would of never let things reach this point and more importantly would not of started handing out server compensation just to roll back the server again. Players don’t want to be jerked around.
Sissel and Glad aren’t BIS for my main which is Sorc. neither are HG weapons. Again Idgaf. The ramifications have little significance on me and frankly have little significance on everyone else outside of their ego being appalled at people getting BB’s.
The only thing that has real comparative significance is the monster gems and the fear that someone was farming Silver/Gold bars so that they can cause actual inflation (although I’ve not heard of anyone doing so yet). Deflating the price of items via surplus does zero harm to me in the short or long term.
People gearing up their bracelet slots also means next to nothing to me given the various other equipment slots, nor having any problem with people progressing.
If everyone but myself got 3 proctonium for free it still wouldn’t hurt me or make me feel a way.
They did not in fact do the right thing. Everyone benefited from their fuckup in a way that isn’t going to play out well in the long term.
It’s far less of a problem when the community at large is benefitting than a small minority of people given all the fuks they didn’t give for specific exploits in the past. Duping, server crashing, Weeds. No fuks given.
They should still drop DPK’s.
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