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Rodelero skills, need help

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

hi! i am currently playing rodelero and just reach rodelero c2 today. i have question…

i left with 21 skill point and confuse between shield push, shield shoving, and shield bash…i am aiming for pvp (i know swordie lack of pvp atm, so…please dont say that rodelero sucks etc xD )

  1. is shield push defense reduction at lvl 15, which is -225, is good at high lvl?

  2. if…shield push defense reduction not good at high lvl…which i will take 1 point on it just for the debuff…and left with 20 skill point.
    which is better between shield shoving 10 shield bash 10 or shoving 15 bash 5?

  3. or is there any other skill that are usefull? aside from this 3? the only skill that max lvl is targe smash and shooting star

need some advice/insight, thanks!

#2

sry for my bad english.

  1. Shield Push can’t effect con boss. And if u want for pvp so go for it lev 15, next update give it second debuff is 30% knockdown went receive Auto Atk when Unbalance. So yeah -225 phys def is good.
  2. Next update will increase phys atk of Shield Shoving. Right now im just let it lev 1 and max Shield Bash.
  3. Aim for high phys atk Strike Skill like High Kick or Slithering :)).
    Remember Slithering debuff is make enemy take 100% Strike dmg 10s and High Kick will make enemies take more dmg from Strike Skill.
    Here is my build right now: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/siha2bw4my/
    Got to rework my build on next update for Swordman.
#3

PVP build

No Corsair c1 for Iron Hook

Those skill choices

Slithering level 6

#4

So u’re following my build or u’re my son or im ur teacher?

#5

hello! thankyou for your insight and advice!, i will use these information to build my own rodolero :slight_smile:
i am still confused about shield push though haha…that skill use too many skill points to be good haha

#6

i am sorry sir but if you have something to say, rather than just post some picture, you should have share your knowledge to other people :slight_smile:

not all people have as much knowledge as you do and it is always a good thing to share it :slight_smile: but if you dont want to, you dont need to post any picture or any other post that said to other people that they are stupid or they are wrong because of what they did…

i hope my reply to you doesnt make you mad or insulted :slight_smile:

sorry for the bad english anyway and have a nice day

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#7

Take 1 circle of corsair for iron hook. its cc that is really useful especially in pvp. and also just take 1 point for slithering as you only need the debuff and the damage scales really bad by leveling it and also for magic immunity

#8

This is how i would build it if it is purely pvp

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#9

One point in Shield Push is enough. The defense decrease is pretty bad unless you max the skill, at which point you’d have used up way too many SP.

Shield Bash deals very nice damage compared to Push and Shoving, so you should max that over the others.

Disregarding other classes and for Rodelero C3 alone, you want this for PvP :

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#10

is dop possible instead of corsair? im also leveling a sw3-rod3

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#11

why not go for lv10 shield Shoving? the upcoming patch improves the damage and duration. And it also combo with slithering and high kick, strike debuff

07/04/2016 kTOS
Skill base damage has been increased 172 → 242.4
Skill damage per level has been increased 52.5 → 66.3

correct me if im wrong, new lvl10 shield shoveling is 839.1
lv10 Montano is 869
but with strike debuff thats double

#12

ok, where to start…

SW3: max pain barrier, 3 points in Bash for knockdown, max restrain, rest in gung ho / concentrate

Rod 3:
max targe smash, shield bash, shooting star.
1 point in shield charge, montano, slithering, high kick, (shield bash if u want - personally i put 0)
Rest goes in Shield shoving.

Corsair 1:
Max Iron hook, others whatever u prefer

#13

Hey, Rodeleros, what do you guys think of SW3>Rode2>Sair>Doppel for PvP? Wouldn’t Doppel c1 give some (slash) damage making leveling easier (one could get it before Corsair)? I don’t know how much Rode c3 skills scale damage wise and it seems that it has enough CCs (with enough duration) at c2.

EDIT: something like this:

#15

i am sorry but i already interested with rodelero for a long time, even before the murmilo class (which i believe the main reason that makes people want to build rodelero) :slight_smile:

btw, if you dont want to post something that helpful to others, dont bother seriously. it is sad to see community like this…

have a nice day :slight_smile:

#17

so you want us to read outdated threads from cbt ? just dont read if youre not interested. go to ninja/shinobi threads and complain there.

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#18

and knowing that rodelero class is not popular :slight_smile: anyway i wont discuss something with you haha…waste my time

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#19

Should I search for builds when there was no repository merge and rank 8 classes info? Really?

#20

but the 200% increase strike damage from slithering and high kick is too good to pass though. i agree it would be difficult to level. and you might want to consider dust devil though cuz of the cc. keel hauling only works if there is only one captured by iron hook

#21

How long does +strike damage debuff lasts? In tosbase it says: “Duration: 0 seconds”.

Doppel seems nice for some AoE since getting sw3 means no pelt skills (umbo blow and such). I don’t know in practice though. Most topics about Rodeleros do not have people with lots of experience (i.e. practice) in the class and end up just being a brainstorm/theorycraft topic.

Unless Murmillo requires a shield for most skills, I believe Pelt c1 and wearing a shield should remain enough for tanking as it is now.

#22

both of their duration is 10 sec. you can actually used slithering first and apply the debuff and after 10 sec you use high kick and after 10 sec slithering is already cooled down and use it again and just keep on putting the debuff. but also watch out for the sp cost though. you could also use both of them at the same time for a 200% bonus